Trump's first move
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Trump's first move
He's threatened at least 3 countries so far, so who do we think he'll go for first?
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Re: Trump's first move
Non of the above, it will be a small localised war (hopefully) with China over the South China Sea.
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Re: Trump's first move
I went for Iraq. No one cares about the place, it's got no strong allies, it's been battered a couple of times in recent history and the US know how to make money from being there.
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And it's still full of Americans?Kwacky wrote:I went for Iraq. No one cares about the place, it's got no strong allies, it's been battered a couple of times in recent history and the US know how to make money from being there.
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Re: Trump's first move
Trump thinks big, he thinks GREAT GREAT things! Plus he wants to shift manufacturing back to America, it will be China.
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Re: Trump's first move
The US contractors can pull out for a few months.
Isn't China a nuclear power with missiles? I think he's stupid but not that stupid.
He will want a war though.
Isn't China a nuclear power with missiles? I think he's stupid but not that stupid.
He will want a war though.
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No he's very clever, just like China. It won't be a world war and it won't go nuclear, but it will be China.Kwacky wrote:Isn't China a nuclear power with missiles? I think he's stupid but not that stupid.
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Don't underestimate Trump and more importantly the hatred we are going to see from people like Steve Bannan. They are very clever people, and we're going to see real parallels to the 30s and 40s.
In the second world war everyone thinks it was the Nazis that exterminating all the Jews. Yes obviously they killed millions, but in the first few years of the war the vast majority of Jews were killed by the people of the countries Germany invaded. "Normal" people just like the people we've seen emboldened by the Trump circus.
Concentration camps and gas chambers came from the need for speed and efficiency, not from the lack of people in Europe willing to kill them.
In the second world war everyone thinks it was the Nazis that exterminating all the Jews. Yes obviously they killed millions, but in the first few years of the war the vast majority of Jews were killed by the people of the countries Germany invaded. "Normal" people just like the people we've seen emboldened by the Trump circus.
Concentration camps and gas chambers came from the need for speed and efficiency, not from the lack of people in Europe willing to kill them.
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Re: Trump's first move
Proxy war using Israel.?
That may best suit his proclaimed isolationist strategy, whilst allowing him to create some serious havoc.
That may best suit his proclaimed isolationist strategy, whilst allowing him to create some serious havoc.
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Re: Trump's first move
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... a-no-doubt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Monty wrote:Don't underestimate Trump and more importantly the hatred we are going to see from people like Steve Bannan. They are very clever people, and we're going to see real parallels to the 30s and 40s.
In the second world war everyone thinks it was the Nazis that exterminating all the Jews. Yes obviously they killed millions, but in the first few years of the war the vast majority of Jews were killed by the people of the countries Germany invaded. "Normal" people just like the people we've seen emboldened by the Trump circus.
Concentration camps and gas chambers came from the need for speed and efficiency, not from the lack of people in Europe willing to kill them.
Its quite astonishing some of the outright racist views i am hearing from people i thought i knew pretty well. And when you try and call them out on it, they deny they are racist but anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda is either a lefty liberal with no conviction or this latest horrendous phrase a 'snowflake'.
They just refuse to see the similarities to the 1930s but i guarantee they would be the ones who run a mile if called up to fight any war.
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Re: Trump's first move
As to the choices of country there, any other than Iraq would send the world economies spiraling out of control until we are all bankrupt....but maybe that is Trump's plan.
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Can't tell you how much that both heartens me and disheartens me in equal measureduke63 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... a-no-doubt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Monty wrote:Don't underestimate Trump and more importantly the hatred we are going to see from people like Steve Bannan. They are very clever people, and we're going to see real parallels to the 30s and 40s.
In the second world war everyone thinks it was the Nazis that exterminating all the Jews. Yes obviously they killed millions, but in the first few years of the war the vast majority of Jews were killed by the people of the countries Germany invaded. "Normal" people just like the people we've seen emboldened by the Trump circus.
Concentration camps and gas chambers came from the need for speed and efficiency, not from the lack of people in Europe willing to kill them.
Its quite astonishing some of the outright racist views i am hearing from people i thought i knew pretty well. And when you try and call them out on it, they deny they are racist but anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda is either a lefty liberal with no conviction or this latest horrendous phrase a 'snowflake'.
They just refuse to see the similarities to the 1930s but i guarantee they would be the ones who run a mile if called up to fight any war.
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LOL just clicked the link, you can call me Mistic Monty.
It's not rocket science though is it. Trump wants the labour, China has the labour, war stops the labour.
It's not rocket science though is it. Trump wants the labour, China has the labour, war stops the labour.
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.... and it would be GREAT, so GREAT!
I've had enough now. I'm a pacifist but would gladly shoot Bannon in the face!
I've had enough now. I'm a pacifist but would gladly shoot Bannon in the face!
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Re: Trump's first move
2 of the nations on that list are not overseas, they're on our borders.
Comparisons with Nazi Germany are always the
standard scaremongering tactic for some reason??
Comparisons with Nazi Germany are always the
standard scaremongering tactic for some reason??
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Re: Trump's first move
American courts over rule his ban. the US is a very divided Nation at the moment, just like the UK.