Brexit thread

[duke63]

Do you think there is room for a pro EU party yet in the UK political system?

[Kwacky]

And no one is talking about the effect this is all going to have on Gibraltar and the Falklands. Both of them rely on the EU

[D41]

Apparently Gibraltar is being left to the UK & Spain to be sorted out between the pair of them (or all three of them, I suppose).

[duke63]

It all shows how stupid the whole idea of Brexit is.

It’s us ordinary people who will lose most in terms of our freedom of movement and it’s us ordinary people who will end up paying for it.

Reading a post the other day on another forum from a guy whose company deals in electronics and other similar items. EU imports will not only have tariffs applied under WTO rules but WE will have to pay VAT on that tariff as well.

[duke63]

European bikes will have a 6% tariff applied plus vat at 20% so BMWs, Ducatis, KTMs etc will go up by 7.2% on 1 January if no deal is approved

European Cars will be 10% tariff plus 20% vat equals a 12% price increase.

Where is the win in that???!

[D6Nutz]

Guess I'll be buying the XR at the end of the PCP agreement then.

Be interesting to see what that does to the value of the used market.

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[Kwacky]

It should increase the prices for a short while. I guess people will prefer to buy nearly new rather than splash out on a new bike with a massive price increase. But that's only if there's the cash around to buy them.

[Bob T]

New to the forum, first post. I live in France and have done for over 15 years now. You can think that I am smug, but that cannot be further from the truth. What I see is that my beloved England is going down the pan. I have tried to put my point of view, but brexiteers shout very loudly and won't listen. Now I am resigned to sit back and watch it all go wrong and say to myself that the majority got what they wanted and now have to live with the consequences. The nearly 50% will find ways to still go on their European tours, even if that is a bit more expensive and a little more difficult.
If any of those remainers are in the Dordogne area of France, on any bike, and want some local knowledge then please feel free to let me know.
Funny first post, I know.

[Kwacky]

Hi Bob.

It take it France is your permanent home now?

Most of the pro brexit posters on this forum have left. I guess it's because they know they can no longer tell us it's going to be the success they were promised. Apparently us Remoaners are negative and unpatriotic.

Hopefully we'll be back over on the mainland next summer. I do miss our European trips.

[Bob T]

Yes retired here in 2004 at the age of 45. I thought the whole continent was my home till brexit, now I understand that it is just this part.

[D41]

Welcome, Bob.

[StMarks]

Bienvienue Mr T. (Baracus ? )
Nice looking selection of machines you've collected there, does the little Duke "Diana" get much use.?

[Bob T]

The 250 is unused these days. It still has a UK registration and should not be used in France without being registered. Having said that it is all there and duns.

[Frankie]

European bikes will have a 6% tariff applied plus vat at 20% so BMWs, Ducatis, KTMs etc will go up by 7.2% on 1 January if no deal is approved

European Cars will be 10% tariff plus 20% vat equals a 12% price increase.

Where is the win in that???!

No bother.... the new car will have to be British then....... so what are my choices.

British owned - Very nice, but my pocket wont allow for any of these.
Morgan Motor Company Ltd (Aero 8, Plus 8, Roadster, Plus 4, 4/4, 3 wheeler)
Caterham Cars Ltd (Seven)
Mclaren Automotive (570S, 540C, 570GT, 650S, 675LT and P1)
Made in Britain
MINI – MINI, MINI Clubman and MINI Countryman, in Cowley, Oxford
Honda – Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota – Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Burnaston, Derbyshire
Nissan – Juke, Qashqai, Note and Leaf and Infiniti Q30 in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear
Lotus – Elise, Evora and Exige in Norfolk
Aston Martin – DB9, Vantage, Rapide, Vanquish, and DB11 in Gaydon, Warwickshire
Bentley Motors – Continental, Flying Spur and Mulsanne in Crewe, Cheshire
Rolls Royce – Ghost and Wraith in Goodwood, West Sussex
Jaguar – F-Pace and XE in Solihull, and F-type, XJ, XF and XE in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham
Land Rover – Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque in Halewood, Merseyside, and Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Land Rover Defender in Solihull, West Midlands
Vauxhall – Astra at Ellesmere Port and Vivaro van in Luton
Other niche, small volume manufacturers include Westfield, Bristol, Ariel and Noble.

[D41]

Buy an Ariel!

[duke63]

European bikes will have a 6% tariff applied plus vat at 20% so BMWs, Ducatis, KTMs etc will go up by 7.2% on 1 January if no deal is approved

European Cars will be 10% tariff plus 20% vat equals a 12% price increase.

Where is the win in that???!

No bother.... the new car will have to be British then....... so what are my choices.

British owned - Very nice, but my pocket wont allow for any of these.
Morgan Motor Company Ltd (Aero 8, Plus 8, Roadster, Plus 4, 4/4, 3 wheeler)
Caterham Cars Ltd (Seven)
Mclaren Automotive (570S, 540C, 570GT, 650S, 675LT and P1)
Made in Britain
MINI – MINI, MINI Clubman and MINI Countryman, in Cowley, Oxford
Honda – Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota – Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Burnaston, Derbyshire
Nissan – Juke, Qashqai, Note and Leaf and Infiniti Q30 in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear
Lotus – Elise, Evora and Exige in Norfolk
Aston Martin – DB9, Vantage, Rapide, Vanquish, and DB11 in Gaydon, Warwickshire
Bentley Motors – Continental, Flying Spur and Mulsanne in Crewe, Cheshire
Rolls Royce – Ghost and Wraith in Goodwood, West Sussex
Jaguar – F-Pace and XE in Solihull, and F-type, XJ, XF and XE in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham
Land Rover – Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque in Halewood, Merseyside, and Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Land Rover Defender in Solihull, West Midlands
Vauxhall – Astra at Ellesmere Port and Vivaro van in Luton
Other niche, small volume manufacturers include Westfield, Bristol, Ariel and Noble.

I bet that Made in Britain list is a fair bit shorter by the end of 2021.

[Perkles]

Honda Swindon is no longer

[Bob T]

I can imagine the Jap car manufacturers running down their car plants in the UK after brexit. They were built to get around the 10% EU duty on cars made outside the EU. That duty has now gone with the latest trade deal with Japan, but the UK has left the EU. Therefore the price in the EU of UK built Japanese cars has jumped 20%. It makes no sense to continue making them in the UK. Funny thing is that in the Nissan factory area they are mostly brexiteers, idiots.

[Perkles]

I can imagine the Jap car manufacturers running down their car plants in the UK after brexit. They were built to get around the 10% EU duty on cars made outside the EU. That duty has now gone with the latest trade deal with Japan, but the UK has left the EU. Therefore the price in the EU of UK built Japanese cars has jumped 20%. It makes no sense to continue making them in the UK. Funny thing is that in the Nissan factory area they are mostly brexiteers, idiots.

I doubt it we are leading the world in renewable energy and battery production in the U.K. and automotive is booming again

[C00kiemonster]

Ah well....

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55005885