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duke63 wrote:These are very dark days.

The hospice where mother in law was cared for in her last two weeks of life a couple of months ago, has closed 4 of its 6 shops this week. The hospice was on the national ITV news last week saying they were not sure how much longer they could carry on. Without that place and those like it, the NHS would just be under even more stress.

I assume the shops have lost foot fall and custom due to lock down.

Sadly its only going to get worse and more job losses will occur I'm afraid, and the annoying thing is it was foreseeable and avoidable.

Its the whole Hospice that is at risk, not just the shops.

As I say Duke. Very, very sad but foreseeable and avoidable imo.

Not avoidable when you have an idiot in charge.

I said in March a total lockdown was wrong. We should have had a targeted and specific lockdown to protect and properly support the most vulnerable, but with limited impact to the economy and jobs. Alot of people supported total lockdown and sadly the impact of it, is now coming to bear and will cost us more than jobs, there will be alot of austerity in the coming years.

As I say all foreseeable and and avoidable but as is the norm people want their cake and eat it with little thought for the consequences.

Johnson shut down the pandemic team that had always been in place, within 10 days of becoming PM.

He had no plan, no ideas, no nothing other than Brexit.

When you take on the top job you have to have the skills to do it. If you don't, then you fail.

He has no skills at all.

I thought you supported Boris on a full lockdown in March?

Correct me if I'm wrong but thats what I remember.

That was the only option then as the Country had zero plans for a pandemic.

As it is, 7 months later, its still the only plan they have.

The alternative is you let the virus go straight through society and see what happens. America tried that and their economy still collapsed.

But Swedens hasn't

Jack wrote:But Swedens hasn't

Totally agree Jack

@Duke it wasnt the only option back then nor is it now. There is always options. What it was, was the option chosen and supported by the many. The same many that now seem somewhat disappointed and surprised at the consequences of such drastic action.

I do genuinely believe the mess we are in now and for the foreseeable future with job losses and austerity was foreseeable and avoidable.

Ah Sweden. Despite us constantly being told we can't compare other countries to our own because of population densities and health care systems, Sweden gets mentioned all the time.

The figures show that Swedes adhered to the rules. They worked from home, they socially distanced. The government didn't have to go for a full lockdown because the public were already doing what was required.

This is a balanced article. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... nt-believe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So if we're now allowed to compare countries. How about New Zealand?

Jack wrote:But Swedens hasn't

Read what Sweden actually did. All schools for over 16s and Unis were closed.

They also have a much better sense of social responsibility than UKers and worked on a voluntary lockdown.

But in any case Sweden does not come out of this as well as many want to believe. Their economic impact was still considerable and their death rate is still very high compared to their neighbours.


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I'll let Jack respond on Sweden as it was his point and he is always well informed.

My point is a simple one. We should have had a targeted lockdown not a general one. Alot of unessecary job losses and austerity will follow as the consequence of the total lockdown.

Kwacky wrote:
So if we're now allowed to compare countries. How about New Zealand?

That’s not a fair comparison


Sheep don’t get COVID

They pass it on to their lovers though.

Fullers Brewery is getting rid of 500 jobs. They're blaming the reduced hours opening and reduced numbers allowed in pubs.

One of my locals is a Greene King or someone another, and they really aren't helping the themselves tbh.

We called in on a family walk for a drink and were told we had to leave as we hadn't booked in. It was a lovely day but the place was empty, a maximum 25% full, with a wash of chairs inside and out available with plenty of social distancing possible. We offered to book there and then, give them all our details and order using their app and pay contactlessly via the app but the 3 people behind the bar doing absolutely nothing told us sorry you have to leave.

Wouldnt mind if we were a rowdy bunch of lads, but it was me, the wife and kids stopping for a drink at a local country boozer we use regularly.

They've started the first round of redundancies at my work. No surprise it's the support staff going first.

I see Phil Green has been able to put 13,000 jobs at risk while he's lining his pockets and giving his wife a massive dividend and paying no tax.

The bloke is a full on slime ball.

Yep, these high street job losses will have a massive impact on the whole area of retail. I know we are in Covid right now, but all these people needed to eat, buy coffee etc.... really sad times all round