Brexit thread

[Kwacky]

Another brexit benefit

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... SApp_Other

[duke63]

When is a politician going to admit that Brexit has no benefits for the people of the UK? Other than the offshore tax avoiders that is, our PM being one of them.

[Perkles]

Don’t worry I sorted this all out with Kwacky yesterday
We have a manifesto and everything

[Kwacky]

Another benefit, no crowded trains

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 68087.html

[duke63]

'February marks seven years since the B-word infected every political discussion in the UK. There’s a reason why it split families and ended friendships. Both sides considered themselves to be saving the British people from catastrophic harm. Why was that?

It’s because major politicians and journalists painted Brexit as the way to save the UK from poverty and tyranny under the EU. In 2016, Rishi Sunak told us: “If we leave the EU, we will immediately save £20bn.” Now, his government’s economists say it is costing our economy £100bn a year (4 per cent of GDP). Sunak also told us Brexit would “enhance our position as a dynamic, outward-looking trading economy.” But last March, he admitted that Brexit is “a big part of the reason why” the UK’s trade exports are lagging behind similar countries.'

[Kwacky]

In 2016 our economy was equivalent to 90% of Germany's.

Now it's 70%.

[duke63]

Unless things change considerably then rejoining the Single market might be the only option to the next Government to prevent the UK finances spiralling out of control.

[Kwacky]

But both labour and conservatives are against it

[duke63]

Depends how desperate the finances of the country get.

£17 billion needed last month alone just to pay the interest on Government’s borrowings.

[D41]

Do you feel that by the time finances get to that level it will already be too late??
Or they've already passed the point of no return?

[duke63]

Do you feel that by the time finances get to that level it will already be too late??
Or they've already passed the point of no return?

If the cost of borrowing keeps increasing and Britain's GDP keeps falling the slippery slope will get steeper.

Just like any other entity there comes a point where the debt burden gets too great. We are not there yet but all the the future forecasts for Britain's economy are much bleaker than similar Nations.

[Kwacky]

More mayhem

In a judgment handed down last Friday, the High Court has cast doubt on the British citizenship status of children born in the United Kingdom before 2 October 2000 to EU citizens who did not at that time possess indefinite leave to remain. The case is R (on the application of Roehrig) v Secretary of State for the Home Department.

[C00kiemonster]

Blimey.

I think if they then got indefinite leave to remain at a later date surely that applies to the children?

[D41]

I think if they were born in the UK then they're British citizens and that's the end of it.... does not & should not mean that the parents are allowed to use a child as one of the so-called 'anchor-babies'.
But they will.

[Kwacky]

If they're born before October 2000 they won't be a child.

[D41]

Perhaps, but they're still British.

[duke63]

I’d love to know who sat down and worked out how much change all this would entail. I suspect no one did.

If the referendum was run again next year i am pretty sure it would have a very different result.

The way the figures read today, it’s hard to envisage the Uk having any car manufacturers UK based in the future.

[Kwacky]

Nissan is asking the government for help

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8798 ... bab20a14ef

[Kwacky]

Surprise!

[duke63]

Surprise!

It's worth watching the dispatches programme that was on C4 last night. The amount of Russian money pouring into the Tory party from 2012 onwards is astonishing. There is no doubt that some Tories were in the pockets of Putin and his cronies and were put in compromising positions by the Kremlin. the wife of Litvinenko, who was poisoned by the Kremlin had to get the High Court to overturn the Govts ruling not to have an enquiry into his death.

A former senior MI6 advisor said the Govt should have stood up to Putin when he invaded Crimea but because they were enjoying the financial benefits of wealthy Russians too much, they did nothing.