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These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 15:05
by kiwikrasher
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote:When the Ku Klux burns a cross in a black family’s yard, Christians aren’t required to explain how these aren’t really Christian acts
http://time.com/3662152/kareem-abdul-ja ... -religion/

A very well written article IMHO. If this understanding was wide spread we'd as a global community have a far better chance of reducing the impact of terrorism. But as the human race has shown throughout its history, truth and logic rarely prevail. There is so many narrow minded people that just want to blame Muslims as a religion for terrorism without even seeking out the truth, and that unfortunately plays right into the hands of these groups who can then claim "Muslim persecution" as a defence for their attacks.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 15:10
by Kwacky
Regardless, Islam does need a new PR campaign.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 16:08
by D6
I was in a church Sunday for a christening. Was really boring and with all the kids in there more like a zoo.

So I thought what the hell, and actually read some of the bible. What a gory and evil book. Full of bullshit too.

Abraham apparently lived until he was 175. Some girl called Sarah lived to be 121. I think Job died at around 145.

Religion and Gods is all bollox. Its Aliens really.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 16:38
by kiwikrasher
D6 wrote:I was in a church Sunday for a christening. Was really boring and with all the kids in there more like a zoo.

So I thought what the hell, and actually read some of the bible. What a gory and evil book. Full of bullshit too.

Abraham apparently lived until he was 175. Some girl called Sarah lived to be 121. I think Job died at around 145.

Religion and Gods is all bollox. Its Aliens really.
EVeryone has a right to their own opinion, but I tend to agree with you. Even if there was any truth to the basis of most religons they have been warped and manipulated throughout history to facilitate the goals of those at the top.

Not so sure about aliens thou :P

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 17:39
by D41
It's all a fairytale

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 20:11
by duke63
They have never been about religion, only about power and terrorism. Religion is the tool that's been used to justify theses acts.

I do wonder though how in this modern world where you cannot say anything to offend sexuality, race, age,skin colour etc but you are allowed to throw abuse at another person's religion.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 20:23
by Jack
you should be allowed to abuse/ridicule another persons beliefs if they are patently nonsensical , which all religion is .

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 14:53
by Blade
Its about respecting other peoples point of view IMO.

I am an Atheist but my wife and all her family are very committed church members with very strong faith. We have polar opposite opinions on the subject of religion but we show each other complete respect on the subject.

My wife takes both our children to church and as they enjoy it I have no desire to discourage that. However if a time ever comes when they no longer wish to attend church both of us as parents will respect that wish and they can stay at home with me.

As I said at the beginning IMO its about respect and not offending or challenging other peoples beliefs but accepting their importance to them.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 18:19
by Jack
the actual physical provable truth is far more amazing to me than religion could ever be , every single one of the hundreds of millions of atoms that make up a persons body were born in the heart of stars an unimaginable time and distance from where we are now and when we cease to function those atoms will eventually become parts of a million other things , I think that is a wonder of itself .

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 18:34
by Monty
Jack wrote:the actual physical provable truth is far more amazing to me than religion could ever be , every single one of the hundreds of millions of atoms that make up a persons body were born in the heart of stars an unimaginable time and distance from where we are now and when we cease to function those atoms will eventually become parts of a million other things , I think that is a wonder of itself .
Amen to that (giggle)

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 20:21
by duke63
But who made the stars? (bandit)

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 20:27
by Jack
No Who involved merely How .

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Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:08
by StMarks
Jack wrote:No "Who" involved merely "How" .
Or ; No "Who" involved, merely "What".
(angel)

We (well me anyway) are simply unable to conceive beyond our three dimensions. However even with our limited knowledge it is easy to see that there is so much that we do not understand & cannot begin to explain.

Let's face it, we don't even actually know what it is that is our consciousnesses,

So what's to say that there is not some "consciousness" that lays outside of our conception, perhaps linked to all matter in existence.?
Fwiw it seems entirely plausible to me.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:10
by Kwacky
Image

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:15
by Monty
Guys do a search for the "Holographic universe" or the "Holographic principal" Mind blowing if you're into this stuff.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:24
by Blade
What I find mind blowing is your a Fooking cat with a 12 inch cock who has the ability to type, offer reasoned argument and ride a motorcycle.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:27
by Monty
Also consider this, and the way your brain works. Light enters the retina and is converted into electrical signals that are converted into images somewhere in the brain. You don't actually see light!

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:29
by Kwacky
and our eyesight isn't as good as we think it is. Our brain fills in a lot of stuff, which is why people see things such as Nessie. You tell someone there is a monster in a lake, there's something in the lake and you can't work out what it is, so your brain fills in the gaps with what it thinks you should be seeing.

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:36
by Blade
Monty wrote:Also consider this, and the way your brain works. Light enters the retina and is converted into electrical signals that are converted into images somewhere in the brain. You don't actually see light!
I bet all the other cats hate you, intelligent and hung like a horse (lol) nice soft pussy fur too ;)

Re: These Terrorist Attacks Are Not About Religon

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 21:42
by StMarks
Blade wrote:..I bet all the other cats hate you, intelligent and hung like a horse (lol) nice soft pussy fur too ;)
I would expect that (given his "god given gift") that most pussies would actually love him.? (Or want to, anyway)