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Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 18:01
by C00kiemonster
Those are nice. I'd get the heel plates powercoated black. They would look very good. I agree some carbon fibre ones look terrible.. They wear quickly too..

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 19:10
by D41
Gilles.....Rizoma stuff is for rappers.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 19:54
by Kwacky
I got carbon heel plates for mine but had to cover them in clear film otherwise they would have been rubbed to death

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 20:33
by Blade
Oh I see I thought the lacquer would be tough enough but obviously not.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 21:24
by rocket
could use helicopter tape i use on the mountain bike to stop any cables rubbing its pretty strong

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 21:34
by Blade
I've got some spare venture shield but if they mark easy I might think again.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 21:39
by Kwacky
Some decent lacquer should do the trick.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 22:37
by Blade
Confused aren't they lacquered when new ?

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 22:41
by Perkles
Blade wrote:Confused aren't they lacquered when new ?
carbon fibre would already be lacquered either matt or gloss,i think carbon would look good so what if it wears a bit

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 09:33
by Kwacky
Blade wrote:Confused aren't they lacquered when new ?
Yep but I'm advocating a layer of good quality lacquer, the harder wearing stuff. I think Halfords do a heavy duty version in a can. Something like that.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 10:12
by Blade
I think I will leave hand painting them with lacquer, I don't think it would turn out very well IMO.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 10:40
by kiwikrasher
Blade wrote:Cheers Si they look good 8)
Indeed!

I've got Gilles on the Triumph, I wouldn't again for the same reasons as Monty, right PITA

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 10:54
by Monty
I quite like how the carbon heal plate wear and how you get the layers coming through

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 10:57
by Kwacky
Blade wrote:I think I will leave hand painting them with lacquer, I don't think it would turn out very well IMO.

I think it's spray.

I've got a spare set. I might give it a go. Me and Perkles can get high off the fumes.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 11:33
by kiwikrasher
Kwacky wrote:
Blade wrote:I think I will leave hand painting them with lacquer, I don't think it would turn out very well IMO.

I think it's spray.

I've got a spare set. I might give it a go. Me and Perkles can get high off the fumes.
I'd be leaning towards using a resin coating rather than a lacquer, then it's just another layer of the original contstruction rathaer than a different product. Plus the resin self levels to a degree. It is a repair procedure we used on fibreglass and CF in aircraft maintenance. But seeing a few of Perkles work related posts he'll be all over that with far more knowledge than myself.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 11:35
by Kwacky
I've not thought about that. I'll look into it. Ta.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 12:33
by Blade
Great info KW

Lets us know what you find out Kwacky (y)

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 12:36
by Kwacky
Kiwi, is it something like this I need?

http://www.allscotltd.co.uk/RESIN-&-GEL ... /p-91-584/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 12:56
by kiwikrasher
Kwacky wrote:Kiwi, is it something like this I need?

http://www.allscotltd.co.uk/RESIN-&-GEL ... /p-91-584/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nope! Thats a polyester resin, not really any good for carbon fibre.. rather than me rattle on, here's some good info

http://www.sollercomposites.com/epoxyresinchoice.html

For the amount you'd use on heel guards I'd just get a good quality epoxy resin in the smallest size you can. Something like this should do the trick

http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/p ... lcoat.aspx

But my knowledge is limited and old (I haven't done and fibre work for a decade other than a few simple glassing jobs at home ) so double check with the suppliers on your intended application, and they'd steer you in the right direction if I'm giving you a bum steer.

Re: Rizoma or Gilles

Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 12:58
by Perkles
I would just use clear wrap on them ,it can be easily removed when its wears and is cheap as off ebay