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Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:01
by Blade
Limiting a vehicle to the speed limit is different to what it's top speed is. There not talking of limiting tops speeds.

99% of Derbyshires roads are a maximum of 50mph as there a virtually no national speed limit sections.

Would I buy a Porsche limited to 50mph? No.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:03
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:I'm still waiting for a convincing argument for having a car being able to hit triple figures on a public highway
Totally agree mate, I also don't think there is either, but there is a big market for such vehicles and alot of manufacturers have invested heavily in developing vehicles capable of such all the same.

I'm just wondering how that will pan out tbh.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:18
by D41
Kwacky wrote:I'm still waiting for a convincing argument for having a car being able to hit triple figures on a public highway
Because it's a licence-killer??

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:19
by Kwacky
The performance will still be there up to a top speed.

Another way round it is automatic speeding fines. You already give consent to the car maker to track your car, it wouldn't take much to extend that consent to the police.

Imagine the outrage though.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:31
by D41
Well...performance has outstripped the law. When I was a bairn few cars could get into triple digits....now they all can...comfortably.
I know I've done some stupid speeds in cars....especially back in my 20's. Not since..not really.
A bike is all about performance....I always hit triple digits on a bike...just about every time out...I'd almost make a point of it.
Totally different mentality.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:38
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:The performance will still be there up to a top speed.

Another way round it is automatic speeding fines. You already give consent to the car maker to track your car, it wouldn't take much to extend that consent to the police.

Imagine the outrage though.
Not saying we haven't, but personally speaking I wasn't aware I had given the manufacturer this consent?

How and when will this have happened?

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:44
by D6Nutz
Blade wrote:Limiting a vehicle to the speed limit is different to what it's top speed is. There not talking of limiting tops speeds.
Didn't all the major manufacturers already agree to limit their top speeds to 155mph?

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:56
by Blade
I know BMW have limited cars to 155mph

However I can verify Porsche have not (rock)

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 22:59
by duke63
Blade wrote:Lambo and Ferrari were extreme examples.

What about 3.0litre and above Ford's, Bmw, VW, Volvo, Audi etc........ half of most manufacturers luxury, performances, executive car ranges could become very undesirable with a massively reduced customer base over night.
The motor industry is about to undergo a huge change in the way operates. My guess is that the range of different models will decrease substantially.

We take car ownership as the norm but it's only been that way in our life time. My parents could not afford a car for a number of years after they were married. The younger generations don't seem to have anywhere near as much interest in cars and bikes. Something will come along to replace car ownership just as it did horses, push bikes, motorbikes......

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:07
by C00kiemonster
Blade wrote:I know BMW have limited cars to 155mph

However I can verify Porsche have not (rock)
Nor Jaguar ;)

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:11
by D41
D6Nutz wrote:
Blade wrote:Limiting a vehicle to the speed limit is different to what it's top speed is. There not talking of limiting tops speeds.
Didn't all the major manufacturers already agree to limit their top speeds to 155mph?
I think BMW, Mercedes, & AUDI did it years ago to pre-empt the Naz....er German govt. from slapping some potentially more restrictive conditions on their cars.
And I remember reading something about tyres factoring into it, maybe?

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:14
by Blade
Someone needs to get in touch with D6 so he can stop any of this news reaching Triumph or it will kill any chance or a Daytona 765RS (wasntme)

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:14
by Kwacky
Blade, it's in the contract. The amount of information modern cars carry and collect is unbelievable. And there's more than one chip gathering data.

Mercedes, Audi and BMW all retain possession of some of the data collectors in their cars.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:16
by Blade
That's my query mate, when did I sign any contract ?

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:17
by D41
What a bunch of dicks.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:20
by Kwacky
Blade wrote:That's my query mate, when did I sign any contract ?
No idea. I wasn't there :)

I presume there's some paperwork involved when a new car is bought.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:23
by duke63
It will probably be assumed you accept it when you put the key in the ignition.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:27
by duke63
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Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:32
by duke63
Another piece on the legal aspects.

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Re: Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 ye

Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 23:39
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:
Blade wrote:That's my query mate, when did I sign any contract ?
No idea. I wasn't there :)

I presume there's some paperwork involved when a new car is bought.
But if we have my bought new then we haven't signed anything (wasntme)