Tank Slap - Motorcycle Forum

You're right, moving pollution elsewhere doesn't solve the problem, but it does alleviate it, and for a great many more people.
It seems that Siemens (German) and a U.S. company are mainly responsible for the manufacture of the UK's wind farm equipment... although TBH I don't know why that would make any difference.

But that's the point, in time you can bring that centralised pollution down to zero and the networks enable it. There's also a bigger picture with energy networks, eventually, they start to merge and feed each other like a spiders web. Spare electricity goes to Hydrogen production, waste heat from production feeds into heat networks, gas from landfill powers generators that power data centres, the heat from data centres heats homes etc etc etc.

It is the future, but I am slightly biased because it's the industry I work in.

I'm just concerned why they're pushing it so hard when the battery production, energy production, damage (wear/tear) to the roads and extra rubber production (tyres) is so terrible with electric vehicles. Not to mention the safety issues with having 2500kg near-silent vehicles hitting pedestrians at 20mph vs an equivalent ICE vehicle weighing 1700kg and probably down to 17mph given the same driver reaction time.

It isn't the perfect fix they're selling to the public.

Then there's the cost of these things and the further division of rich vs poor. A cheap car is £12k, the cheapest equivalent EV is £32k.

I personally really like the prospect of owning an EV by the way, I like how they drive around town and how stress-free they are in traffic, but I don't buy all the bullsh!t that surrounds the promotion of them.

Yes lots of problems, battery production being a pretty nasty one and the carbon cost of manufacturing anything really. I'd like to see more companies making electric conversions kits for existing vehicles to offset it. And hopefully, battery manufacturing will get cleaner with fewer rare earth metals.

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Scalextric for the masses.
The only things missing are a lap-counter, PITA plastic guardrails, and some X-crossover sections to guarantee the occasional wipeout.

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There is no doubt that once the ICE is put to bed then personal transport will come on in leaps and bounds very quickly.

There are a few companies now doing short term lease agreements for electric cars which will fit quite a few peoples lives perfectly.

I've looked very seriously at electric cars but the price of them compared to ice cars is potty. Even at current petrol prices they are not good value at all.

Electric cars will be viable in 5 years time when charging is standardised and batteries are lighter. Energy density isn't there yet.

I thought cars should get smaller and lighter, not bigger and heavier! That surely can't be efficient.

C00kiemonster wrote:I've looked very seriously at electric cars but the price of them compared to ice cars is potty. Even at current petrol prices they are not good value at all.

Electric cars will be viable in 5 years time when charging is standardised and batteries are lighter. Energy density isn't there yet.

I thought cars should get smaller and lighter, not bigger and heavier! That surely can't be efficient.

With their desire to lower speed limits, this works in their favour.

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C00kiemonster wrote:I've looked very seriously at electric cars but the price of them compared to ice cars is potty. Even at current petrol prices they are not good value at all.

Electric cars will be viable in 5 years time when charging is standardised and batteries are lighter. Energy density isn't there yet.

I thought cars should get smaller and lighter, not bigger and heavier! That surely can't be efficient.

I wonder if at the moment buyers are having to pay for all the research and development costs and not just the build costs of their car. I struggle to understand why an electric car should be more expensive to manufacture, surely it should be cheaper?
I am sure I read that an electric car has half the number of components compare to an ice car.

Perkles wrote:This has had amazing reviews
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And you were just about to buy a 250cc MX,,,,,,,

StMarks wrote: And you were just about to buy a 250cc MX,,,,,,,

Perkles never waits

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Nissan Leafs everywhere with Gloucestershire Constabulary. They're only for the community officers though and don't have blue lights or sirens so I doubt it's actually that big of a problem. They still have Peugeot 308 SWs for regular plod and a mixture of BMW 3-series, 5-series, X5, Volvo V90 and XC90 for Traffic.

Kinda hard to be Starsky & Hutch when you're in a Prius, I suppose.
You put on the blues & twos and the car slows down.

I forgot to mention they have 1x unmarked Kia Stinger!

I think that's called the Optima over here.... it's a very nice looking car.

We have a Kia Optima here too, very different cars

Apparently so.... the Stinger prices start where the Optima prices end, it seems.
I think I'll need to see them side by side, TBH. And make an appointment with an optician.