ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Not sure thats possible. The dealer can only act as directed by Kawasaki UK with regards the warranty claim procedure and KawasakI UK are saying remove the aftermarket QS and see if the fault clears. If it doesn't clear I m under the impression kawasaki are happy to assist with a warranty claim. I'm not sure how I bypass the request to remove the QS and still receive warranty support.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
To remove and replace the sensor 5 minutes tops.
To remove the QS 3 hours and then the same again to fit it back on the bike if it's found not to be faulty.
To remove the QS 3 hours and then the same again to fit it back on the bike if it's found not to be faulty.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Bit poor. The sensor is under the pillion seat so really easy to get to
"80mph" sorry officer I possibly could not have done that I'm no Valentino Rossi.
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Its a £40 sensor to us so much less to them. Its not like you are asking for a gear box rebuild. Seems a bit far fetched from the dealer not to just change it.
"80mph" sorry officer I possibly could not have done that I'm no Valentino Rossi.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Personally I would change the sensor myself and get the bike back on the road then sort the issue with the QS later on. If the new sensor works you can go back with a big "I told you so" and a demand for your money.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
That's the problem it's not clear its the sensor or if the QS has anything to do with it. And the QS has no issues it's silky smooth in operation it's just Kawasaki uk not the dealer are suggesting it MAY be a possible cause.Kwacky wrote:Personally I would change the sensor myself and get the bike back on the road then sort the issue with the QS later on. If the new sensor works you can go back with a big "I told you so" and a demand for your money.
It could be a bad connection or a fault with the ecu according to the Kawasaki factory maintenance manual but without a test harness it's not impossible, but also quite awkward for me to check continuity, output voltages and ECU power supply.
Like most things with the right tools quite easy to test but then Kawasaki UK won't accept my opinion even if correctly identified using theit test methods as I'm not a kawasaki approved mechanic.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Good suggestion Duke but as it's intermittent it may be fine for the 1 hour test duration and then occur afterwards.duke63 wrote:Can you and Rocket not do a swap for an hour and test them out?
For info I rode 200 miles in the twisties and had no issues. I rode to Wales and the route there has alot of stop / starts where it cut out a number of times, hence my theory the hot exhaust is causing the sensor to overheat and break down if it gets too hot when repeatedly exposed to exhaust heat when stationary.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
To everyone who has made a suggestion it's genuinely appreciated and received with thanks.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
There £45 plus the postage so £50ishKwacky wrote:How much is a new sensor?
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Take the QS off
then the Ohlins, the arrow can and the rest of the bling,
Sell the bike and then get a 1299
then the Ohlins, the arrow can and the rest of the bling,
Sell the bike and then get a 1299
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
OK, nick Rocket's when he isn't looking.Blade wrote:Good suggestion Duke but as it's intermittent it may be fine for the 1 hour test duration and then occur afterwards.duke63 wrote:Can you and Rocket not do a swap for an hour and test them out?
For info I rode 200 miles in the twisties and had no issues. I rode to Wales and the route there has alot of stop / starts where it cut out a number of times, hence my theory the hot exhaust is causing the sensor to overheat and break down if it gets too hot when repeatedly exposed to exhaust heat when stationary.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Haha. All joking aside I need to get this fixed.
It's peak biking season and Im loosing confidence in a great bike I love riding.
I want to book a track day but feel reluctant to shell out 160 quid if the bike MAY let me down.
It's peak biking season and Im loosing confidence in a great bike I love riding.
I want to book a track day but feel reluctant to shell out 160 quid if the bike MAY let me down.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
In fairness they have been very helpful Rocket.rocket wrote:Its a £40 sensor to us so much less to them. Its not like you are asking for a gear box rebuild. Seems a bit far fetched from the dealer not to just change it.
Its Kawasaki UK who are insisting on QS removal and then to see if the fault clears. If the dealer had his way he would make a claim as he suggested doing such and has been really helpful.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Not sure Duke I'm not great with electrics.
It connects to each coil and the battery negative terminal.
Maybe disconnecting the battey negative would disable the QS with no adverse effects.
Any electricians advise with this one ???
It connects to each coil and the battery negative terminal.
Maybe disconnecting the battey negative would disable the QS with no adverse effects.
Any electricians advise with this one ???
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Ah intermittent fault, that makes it more difficult. You could take the QS off take it back to the dealers and then have the situation where they never find a problem and have Kawasaki blame the QS.Blade wrote:Good suggestion Duke but as it's intermittent it may be fine for the 1 hour test duration and then occur afterwards.duke63 wrote:Can you and Rocket not do a swap for an hour and test them out?
For info I rode 200 miles in the twisties and had no issues. I rode to Wales and the route there has alot of stop / starts where it cut out a number of times, hence my theory the hot exhaust is causing the sensor to overheat and break down if it gets too hot when repeatedly exposed to exhaust heat when stationary.
Think I'd be tempted to just pay the money, and buy the sensor. If it turns out to be something else you've only lost 50 quid and it's still under warranty.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
I m going to check all the QS connections again as it could be that but Imo unlikely as it's a good quality QS with many zx10r installs fault free and mine operates faultlessly and I really don't want to take it off as it's genuinely awesome mod and would be hard to go back to a normal change now.
Dukes idea of disconnecting could be an option and hopefully an Electrician may be able to advise on here.
Dukes idea of disconnecting could be an option and hopefully an Electrician may be able to advise on here.
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Re: ENGINE Problem - Help Needed
Some advice here.
http://www.motoforum.net/topic/122308-b ... lt-sensor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
have you moved the sensor at any point?
http://www.motoforum.net/topic/122308-b ... lt-sensor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
have you moved the sensor at any point?