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Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 10:40
by Blade
Wouldn't a general election have to be called by the Torys as they have a mandate to be in government for 5 years from being elected and I can't see that happening.

Is there any other scenario where a general election can be called ?

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 11:31
by Kwacky
Legally the Queen has the power to call one (that's put in the very briefest way) but she won't.

The House of Commons can also put forward a motion or the current government can call one. If the Tories elect a new leader then that leader can dissolve the government and/or call a general election.

I've tried to put this in very simple terms. But you get the idea, there are options to get a general election.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 12:45
by D41
Sooooooo....without a PM, nothing new will get pushed into law?? Might be a shrewd move on Cameron's part??


On a day-to-day basis, nothing is affected to any huge degree, correct?? I mean...fuel prices aren't skyrocketing, VAT is still absurdly high, etc...?

What is VAT currently at??

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 13:01
by Kwacky
VAT is generally 20%

Cameron has played a blinder. He's left those who wanted this result to clear up the mess.

We've still got a government, the deputy PM takes over when Cameron steps down, so it's still effective, but in practice everything is on hold until the Tories sort themselves out.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 16:17
by duke63
Blade wrote:Wouldn't a general election have to be called by the Torys as they have a mandate to be in government for 5 years from being elected and I can't see that happening.

Is there any other scenario where a general election can be called ?
I bet there are plenty of Tories who wouldn't mind a general election if it meant staying in the EU.

Labour, SNP and Liberals would support it by the sounds of it.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 17:14
by Blade
But the nation has voted to come out. It's a decision already made democratically by the people.

I understand it's possible for the government to ignore the referendum result but imo highly unlikely.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 17:52
by Kwacky
Well Cameron isn't going to do it, and he's here until October.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 21:24
by duke63
Anybody who signs Article 50 will almost certainly also be the instigator of the break up of the United Kingdom.

Not sure anyone wants that on their CV. Johnson and Gove thought Cameron would do it, now he has refused they are reluctant to take the baton on.

In my opinion we should have a General Election followed by a proper referendum on it with all the facts laid out after those who want to Leave have a plan of action. Its clear there isn't anything of the sort.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 07:33
by Monty
Blinding move by Cameron, who saw that coming?

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:05
by Monty
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Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:10
by Monty
If I'm understanding this correctly either the Tory party get to decide and vote for either a Brexit PM or a Remain PM. Or we get a general election, so either the Tory party decides or the voters. My money's on a general election.

Going to get very ugly

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:30
by Cav
I would prefer a general election rather than an unelected PM

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:37
by Kwacky
Won't the Tories have to elect a new leader first? No point going to the polls if we don't know who we're voting for

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:52
by Monty
Well yes and if he or she is pro Brexit, they will have to pull the trigger immediately. If they elect a Remain PM then they would likely call a general election. Either way the Tory party is going to rip it's self to bits, which is nice.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 09:57
by Cav
Looks like the Labour MPs are trying to rip that party apart too

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 10:09
by Kwacky
Labour has its own problems. The Chilcott Inquiry is out soon and a few of those who have been sacked or jumped gun were supporters of Tony Blair. Corbyn isn't liked by those on the right of the labour party. Which is pretty ironic.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 10:15
by Monty
He should have triggered by-elections right from the start, but he didn't. It's squeaky bum time, but I recon he's got a fairly good chance of getting through it.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 10:22
by duke63
Whole country is up shitcreek.

Listening to interviews with people in Barnsley saying they voted out to stop muslims coming here yet then saying they don't mind Europeans here just about sums up this whole bloody shambolic mess.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 10:25
by Cav
It's a nightmare.. I reckon 80% of voteleave was to do with Immigration yet we will be worse off for leaving the EU because of immigration.

People jump the gun with their assumptions when half an hour on Google would tell them a lot of what they thought is wrong.

Re: Cameron to resign.

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 11:02
by duke63
Pound is falling fast.