Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Russia had a go as well.
The 2018 world cup in Russia could prove to be very interesting if tensions continue.
The 2018 world cup in Russia could prove to be very interesting if tensions continue.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Bombing a convoy of aid workers is never going to be a popular move, is it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37415373" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's some sick bastards about.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37415373" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's some sick bastards about.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
To be fair we started it when we carved up the middle east post colonially, along geographical lines that bared no relation to the actual peoples. What we have now is a western version of the middle east, not to say they didn't have problems before. We then spent years funding and arming different dictators and wars in which millions of people have died. For what? A hand full of people got very rich out of selling oil and weapons.
We owe these people, and if some get through that shouldn't then so be it IMHO.
We owe these people, and if some get through that shouldn't then so be it IMHO.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
To be fair "we've all been doing it" since we were swinging from the trees. Confrontation, acquisition & quest for control have been underlying human traits all through our development.Monty wrote:To be fair we started it ......
The society that we live in believes that those traits are wrong. The thinking of our society is at odds with many others around the world, & tribal or nonsecular are still prevalent in less developed areas.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Apparently the Syrians are not people anyway...only Skittles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37416457" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do you get the feeling sometimes that the world is on the brink of destroying itself with idiots making statements like this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37416457" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do you get the feeling sometimes that the world is on the brink of destroying itself with idiots making statements like this?
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
US stats.
1 in 3,408 chance of choking to death on food
1 in 3,640,000,000 chance of being killed by a refugee in a terror attack
1 in 3,408 chance of choking to death on food
1 in 3,640,000,000 chance of being killed by a refugee in a terror attack
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
As much as it may be accurate to recite history, it does little to address the issues faced now. Borders will always be contentious. But sadly you have to have them.
The relief convoy was there to help those who needed it. Everyone knew it was there. Someone took the decision to bomb it. Those people need to be answer their crimes.
The relief convoy was there to help those who needed it. Everyone knew it was there. Someone took the decision to bomb it. Those people need to be answer their crimes.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
No maybe not, but we do need to accept our historic responsibility and do something about it. It's time our politicians stopped pandering to a small minority of xenophobic voters and actually addressed the refugee problem. It would cost dick all in the grand scheme of things.Kwacky wrote:As much as it may be accurate to recite history, it does little to address the issues faced now. Borders will always be contentious. But sadly you have to have them.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
I expect that the best you'll get are the hapless "trigger men".??Kwacky wrote:.......Those people need to be answer their crimes......
You need to look towards those who wish to continue the unrest, to see the actual culprits IMHO.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Always comes down to "three R's" in my opinion....Race, Religion & gReed. That's a stretch on words, but you get the point.
I hope.
I hope.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
This "Proxy war" between Russia & the USA appears to be looking decreasingly "Proxy"
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Do you think that the US and Russia are about to enter into open conflict with one another??
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Expect to see some tit for tat exchanges on the ground.
I see Russia has stopped flying over Turkey since Turkey downed one of their planes.
I see Russia has stopped flying over Turkey since Turkey downed one of their planes.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Can't see open contact happening but they do it surreptitiously.D41 wrote:Do you think that the US and Russia are about to enter into open conflict with one another??
Open conflict would send the economic world into meltdown like no other occasion ever.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
But Russia is like China....they're a paper tiger. They have weapons, munitions, a large military, etc......but no realistic way to project their power effectively.....the ROC is ample proof enough of that insofar as the PRC is concerned.
If anything Russia is in an even worse state....or at the very least in the same (refugee) boat.
Frickin' losers!!
If anything Russia is in an even worse state....or at the very least in the same (refugee) boat.
Frickin' losers!!
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
Russia is massively poor. There is a huge divide between the rich and the poor. A handful of people took control when the USSR fell apart. Putin is part of that group. Russia needs to be seen in the news flexing its might as it's good propaganda. The seizure of the Crimea is a prime example.
They have the manpower, the weapons and the inclination to start a war, but they can't sustain any attack. That's why the conflict in the Ukraine suits them, as it's all low key attrition stuff.
They have the manpower, the weapons and the inclination to start a war, but they can't sustain any attack. That's why the conflict in the Ukraine suits them, as it's all low key attrition stuff.
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Re: Syria, Immigrants and world politics.
That's a great assessment. Couldn't agree more.
To be honest, I don't consider Russia to be anything other than a Third World Country wearing a halfway decent secondhand raincoat....
To be honest, I don't consider Russia to be anything other than a Third World Country wearing a halfway decent secondhand raincoat....