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Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 06 May 2020, 19:29
by D6Nutz
D41 wrote:Higher stem might also give the same relief without quickening up the steering.
It's already as high as it will go. Hadn't thought about the repercussions of changing the stern length though. Interesting point D.

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Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 06 May 2020, 20:06
by Perkles
D6Nutz wrote:So, long ride today.

Cleats + cycling shoes = amazing comfort.

No more losing sensation in my feet. Bike fit is also now nearly spot on, only minor discomfort from my back. Considering a slightly shorter stem as I think I'm over reaching slightly.Image

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how tall are you and what length stem is on it now ?

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 06 May 2020, 20:23
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:
D6Nutz wrote:So, long ride today.

Cleats + cycling shoes = amazing comfort.

No more losing sensation in my feet. Bike fit is also now nearly spot on, only minor discomfort from my back. Considering a slightly shorter stem as I think I'm over reaching slightly.Image

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how tall are you and what length stem is on it now ?
Bout 5"9.

Think this is right for the stem measurement.Image

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Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 07:27
by Perkles
stems about right I am 5,7" in my high heels and use a 11mm stem ,tilt the bars up at an angle and try that
Let me see a side shot of your bike up against a wall or garage

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 09:55
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:stems about right I am 5,7" in my high heels and use a 11mm stem ,tilt the bars up at an angle and try that
Let me see a side shot of your bike up against a wall or garage
When cruising I find my hands about an inch or so back from the hoods for maximum comfort.Image

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Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:01
by Perkles
put that saddle flat to start with and push it forward 10mm, bars are tilted more than enough
A good tip is to also angle your levers in its far more comfortable on your wrists and and shoulders
I will take a few photos of my set up later

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:07
by Cav
Sorting the seat helped me LOADS on my MTB. I raised it, slid it forward or back (can't remember which) but most importantly, I made it perfectly flat.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:13
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:put that saddle flat to start with and push it forward 10mm, bars are tilted more than enough
A good tip is to also angle your levers in its far more comfortable on your wrists and and shoulders
I will take a few photos of my set up later
With the saddle flat I find myself constantly pushing myself back on the saddle, it's also a lot more comfortable on the gentleman area when slightly tilted. I'll try bringing it forwards some more though.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:14
by Cav
The downside of having it tilted is you put more weight toward your wrists and hands which could be why you find it uncomfortable. It's all a trade off though so maybe bringing it forward will be enough for you.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:16
by Perkles
D6Nutz wrote:
Perkles wrote:put that saddle flat to start with and push it forward 10mm, bars are tilted more than enough
A good tip is to also angle your levers in its far more comfortable on your wrists and and shoulders
I will take a few photos of my set up later
With the saddle flat I find myself constantly pushing myself back on the saddle, it's also a lot more comfortable on the gentleman area when slightly tilted. I'll try bringing it forwards some more though.
its either to high then or not enough forward,when you ride you should be able to drop your heal on the downward stroke without leaning to one side or feeling uncomfortable

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:25
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:
D6Nutz wrote:
Perkles wrote:put that saddle flat to start with and push it forward 10mm, bars are tilted more than enough
A good tip is to also angle your levers in its far more comfortable on your wrists and and shoulders
I will take a few photos of my set up later
With the saddle flat I find myself constantly pushing myself back on the saddle, it's also a lot more comfortable on the gentleman area when slightly tilted. I'll try bringing it forwards some more though.
its either to high then or not enough forward,when you ride you should be able to drop your heal on the downward stroke without leaning to one side or feeling uncomfortable
I have no hip rotation when cycling, but I did adjust the saddle height when I put the new peddles on. Maybe I went a little too high. I'll try dropping it slightly and moving it slightly forward.

Also, to be honest I was only a minor discomfort not backache. And thinking about it, it probably didn't help me falling off at nearly 20mph (blush) (blush) was head down and drifted left, caught the left peddle on the kerb and went flying into the greenery :S (wasntme) :D :D

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 10:47
by Perkles
I still get backache now and ive been racing competitively since the age of 11 ,cycling is tough on the lower back its bent over in an un natural position and exposed to the cold
It also shortens the hamstrings so stretching them out after a ride is very important

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 11:02
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:I still get backache now and ive been racing competitively since the age of 11 ,cycling is tough on the lower back its bent over in an un natural position and exposed to the cold
It also shortens the hamstrings so stretching them out after a ride is very important
I'm used to stretching from the running, I'm also keeping running and strength work in the equation so hopefully should avoid any hamstring issues.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 13:27
by D41
Perkles wrote: its either to high then or not enough forward,when you ride you should be able to drop your heal on the downward stroke without leaning to one side or feeling uncomfortable
That's a good way of putting it. I always figure your knees should be "not quite locked" on the downstroke.

A proper bike-fitting from a cycling-coach-bike-fitting-person is always worth a try for anyone at all. Had one done years ago, and she sorted out one or two things for me. Not stuff you'd really notice on a quick ride, but stuff that starts to wear on you during a race, or longer ride.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 13:56
by Perkles
Brake levers pointing in to each other ,flat saddle tilted bars ,Ideally you want to be sitting in the bike rather than on it if that makes sense
I have a 30" inside leg and my saddle height is centre of bottom bracket to top of the saddle about 725mm

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 14:15
by D41
Oh, I like that!! The Bianchi blue sets it off nicely.

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 07 May 2020, 15:02
by D6Nutz
Perkles wrote:Brake levers pointing in to each other ,flat saddle tilted bars ,Ideally you want to be sitting in the bike rather than on it if that makes sense
I have a 30" inside leg and my saddle height is centre of bottom bracket to top of the saddle about 725mm
Ok, so I've moved the saddle way forward and lifted it a bit.

A quick test ride round the village and I now feel much more over the front wheel and can comfortably rest in the hoods. I've still got a slight forward tilt on the saddle but I'll try and adjust it in smaller changes now.

Cheers for the tips, it is appreciated.

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Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 09 May 2020, 23:34
by Perkles
Sainntbury today which is next to fish hill ,my legs blew apart on the way home and I didnt eat enough :(

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 10 May 2020, 12:36
by Cav
Fish hill was tough on my SV650 for crying out loud haha!

Re: The cycling thread

Posted: 10 May 2020, 13:50
by D6Nutz
Cav wrote:Fish hill was tough on my SV650 for crying out loud haha!
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Supposed to be a recovery ride, but turned out a bit quicker even though it's fecking windy.Image

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