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Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 14:22
by Perkles
UK car output suffers the worst October for 65 years,
It is the chip shortage that is holding back production, it is not lack of demand. Order books are buoyant, and if we had consistently invested in our UK manufacturing sector through the years, we would have been in a much better position.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 22:44
by Monty
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Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 23:52
by StMarks
As I've pointed out innumerate times, ^ that stated "lack of supply" is NOT the problem either.
It is merely one of the symptoms, and you know as well as I what the elephant in the room is Monty.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 00:04
by D41
Well that makes for a cheery LOLZ read, doesn't it?
8-|

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 01:11
by Monty
StMarks wrote:
As I've pointed out innumerate times, ^ that stated "lack of supply" is NOT the problem either.
It is merely one of the symptoms, and you know as well as I what the elephant in the room is Monty.
Read it again and smack yourself around the head 5 times every time he mentions over population

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 07:57
by Cav
Is it called Hump day because people like to throw depression about the place for others to hurdle?

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 09:24
by duke63
The size of the world population isn’t the issue but it’s the way a percentage of that population consumes.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 10:17
by StMarks
duke63 wrote:The size of the world population isn’t the issue but it’s the way a percentage of that population consumes.
Sorry Duke, but that is utter funk. It is the same old argument that is always rolled out by those who prefer to stick their heads in the sand.
The planet has finite resources and ecology has very definite breaking points.
Statistically, yes, it can be proved that we could manage to survive with the current population.
However, do you begrudge the other 80% of the population the quality of life that we enjoy.?
Even with the deprivation & miserable unfulfilled lives inflicted on great swathes of humanity, our consumption is vastly in excess of the balance points.
If every person on the planet was given the same basics that we take for granted,,,,,
(-- Clean water, ample healthy food, secure accommodation, protection by the application of justice, developmental education etc )
,,,,,then it would be far far greater than our impact already is.

Fwiw I believe that everyone in the world should have every advantage that we experience.
The world has ample natural resources, including hydrocarbon fuel for my motorbike. It can cope with regenerating from my annual flight to the snowy Alps. Plastic is not a curse, rather an awesome & versatile material.

It seems manifestly selfish of us to allow our population to grow exponentially, knowing that inevitably it will result in hundreds of billions living miserable lives of deprivation, desperation & conflict on a dying planet.

It seems preferable that future generations should enjoy the development of humanity & technology with every single one of them afforded the benefits that we enjoy, (and more, much much more ).
That can be achieved, and the planet can cope (assisted by our technological developments), with a human population level of around 2- 2.5 billion individuals.
Cav wrote:Is it called Hump day because people like to throw depression about the place for others to hurdle?
Sorry mate, I'll zip it for now. :(

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 10:24
by Kwacky
I wonder if Noddy's car was electric?

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 11:20
by Cav
StMarks wrote:
Cav wrote:Is it called Hump day because people like to throw depression about the place for others to hurdle?
Sorry mate, I'll zip it for now. :(
Not just you mate don't worry. Just gonna tune out of this thread now.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 12:44
by D41
Kwacky wrote:I wonder if Noddy's car was electric?
Let's hope so, for Toyland's sake.

Back when I was about 4 years old, I was convinced that Noddy had grown up and become Ken Dodd.

BTW.... anyone else here think that Noddy might have been transgender?? I have my suspicions..

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 15:02
by Perkles
Kwacky wrote:I wonder if Noddy's car was electric?
fred flinstones was the best he was ahead of the curve

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 15:15
by duke63
The Wacky Racers drivers had the best cars.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 17:29
by D41
Yup.... Hanna-Barbera built some classic cars back in the day.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 03 Dec 2021, 15:20
by Frankie
I have a photo I took at the Concours d'elegance this year, which totally reminded me of the Penelope Pitstops car and umbrella, well sort of ha ha.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 03 Dec 2021, 17:40
by Jack
My favourite was the Ant Hill Mob and Chugga boom

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 03 Dec 2021, 18:36
by StMarks
Jack wrote:My favourite was the Ant Hill Mob and Chugga boom
Fwiw mine was Batmans car. Looks dreadful to me now, but back then it was epic to a child saint.

Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 18:04
by StMarks
Some real investment in a decent alternative rather than electric power.???

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Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 18:45
by duke63
I think some of these companies are now relaising that they have no future if everything is powered by electricty.

I was told this week that Audi will be dropping all of its smaller car range in the next couple of years.

I still don't beleive that privately owned vehicles will be the future as far as city travel is concerned. This is how we will move around towns and cities in 10-15 years time if not sooner. Apple and Sony are also gearing up to manufacture small electric vehicles, i read somewhere.
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Re: The electric car revolution

Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 19:46
by C00kiemonster
I'm not convinced by electric cars yet. Too expensive and too large / heavy. Infrastructure not there yet either, nor is the recycling infrastructure.

Where a reasonable family car is £20k or so - they now seem to be £40k. Madness. Especially as the technology is changing fast.

I agree - I'd happily have one car and then use taxi's or payg cars for closer journeys.