The biggest thing I learnt is that bikes are far more stable than we think and sometimes fighting movement is more likely to make you crash. The bike moving around on road doesn't phase me quite as much as it used to now.

... ride certain terrains. The bike does most of the work if you let it, but it's difficult to trust it as your used to pulling the bike around on the road. As a beginner I held on too much and tensed up too much on difficult sections, my hand grip still isn't back to full strength as you hold on for ...

... enduro , its a very capable bit of kit - lots of torque as you would expect from a big single and you can easily ride it to somewhere to go off-road I'd quite fancy something like that with two sets of wheels, one for road and one for knobblies. Depends if it can take a bashing off-road as it ...

Nothing to the bike, but I'm a step closer to riding it again.

Picked up some leathers of Gumtree. Alpine stars 2 piece suit, in good condition and never been down the road. £120 with a pair of summer gloves.

Will keep me going until I've got enough spare cash to buy new ones.

... enduro , its a very capable bit of kit - lots of torque as you would expect from a big single and you can easily ride it to somewhere to go off-road I'd quite fancy something like that with two sets of wheels, one for road and one for knobblies. Depends if it can take a bashing off-road as it ...

my lad has a ktm 690 enduro , its a very capable bit of kit - lots of torque as you would expect from a big single and you can easily ride it to somewhere to go off-road

Weight is the key with off road bikes, the lighter the better. No point in buying a bike that is great at getting to green lanes and then too unwieldy when you get there. I want to try one of the off road days in Wales in October/November ...

... to go greenlaning or would you think something slightly larger for for travelling about to places? I was thinking of something with some off road capability for my next bike but I wasn't sure if a 250 would be a bit too small for me capacity wise for getting about to places. I was thinking ...

... to go greenlaning or would you think something slightly larger for for travelling about to places? I was thinking of something with some off road capability for my next bike but I wasn't sure if a 250 would be a bit too small for me capacity wise for getting about to places. I was thinking ...

A few photos. I'll have to do a full review when I've got time, This is the house they use for B&B, off road and road tours. http://i.imgur.com/J1jOP8L.jpg The bikes - Yam 250s. I managed to break mine. http://i.imgur.com/OtWaGSLh.jpg We got our guide into the Tankslap ethos ...

Off roading is fun, must admit I am tempted to get an enduro, not a full on MX bike, but a road legal one for green lanes, enduro suff... all triggered by my recent blast around on that off road day...ha ha

Absolutely! I did trail riding (as we call it here) solidly for about 6 yrs, had 4 different different bikes over that time. I'd love to have another one.

But if I had to choose between off-road and track days, I'd pick track days.

Do you get many road bikes Frankie. I spotted a couple in the last photo. You do get road bikes, probably not as many as track bikes, that last pic cold have been when we there was quiet a few guys from tvam & rapid training ...

5 mile trail run tomorrow night after work, the meet point is only about 5 or 6 miles down the road so I might cycle there too if I get home from work in time. Made it home in time, and it was just over 5 miles... Frickin knackered today, the legs are really feeling it ...

Do you get many road bikes Frankie.

I spotted a couple in the last photo.

18 miles on the push bike this afternoon, it's starting to feel quite comfortable now..

5 mile trail run tomorrow night after work, the meet point is only about 5 or 6 miles down the road so I might cycle there too if I get home from work in time.

The only difference I noticed was the sprocket wore out much much quicker, but at 600 miles a year that's never going to be a problem.

Personally I will never put an alloy sprocket on a road bike again but only because of the mileage.

As part of an overall weight saving exercise and on a well maintained and low usage road motorbike I can't see why you wouldn't do it IMO

... will be knackered faster than a decent aftermarket item. The race spec 520 chain Im looking at has the same tensile strength as the recommended road 530 chain so it won't wear any quicker. Plus it will still be even better than the oem chain specification and I only do about 600 miles a year ...

Personally I've never seen the point for a road bike. I've asked in the past when I've been changing move but on both occasions I've been told it's not worth it unless I'm going to be swapping sprocket sizes around - there's supposed to be more choice in 520