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Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:14
by jlawie
¬For the last 2 years, this bikes been off the road. Had running issues before I garaged it and seem worse than ever now.

Bike : Triumph Daytona 600, K&N Air filter, TORs exhaust end can and matching TORS map.

Symptoms : From Cold it struggles to start. Cranks over fine, but does get going for a good few seconds. Revs hunt and idle pretty low. Pulls away hesitantly, often feeling like its bogging down, then all of a sudden picks up. Quite often stalls when pulling up when cold. From hot, it’s even harder to start. Rev’s sit extremely high at idle (1.5k-2.0k) The bike actually pulls like the throttle is open!

Checked : New air filter, oil, oil filer, fuel filter, higher octane fuel, engine flush, throttle body rubbers. Bought a cable to check the map on TuneECU, but having issues linking to the bikes ECU.

Been a problem for a fair while, but it’s getting more and more frustrating! Appreciate any help you can shed on this!

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:20
by Kwacky
Have you tried it with the standard air filter and the stock exhaust on it?

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:24
by Monty
Might be the throttle position sensor, which unfortunately you need TuneECU to adjust.

Have you had your valve clearances checked recently? Poor cold starting can be an indicator that they need adjusting.

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:27
by jlawie
Kwacky wrote:Have you tried it with the standard air filter and the stock exhaust on it?
Yep. Triumph put the old map back on too as a check

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:28
by jlawie
Monty wrote:Might be the throttle position sensor, which unfortunately you need TuneECU to adjust.

Have you had your valve clearances checked recently? Poor cold starting can be an indicator that they need adjusting.
My thoughts too. I doubt they've ever been checked in 21k

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:32
by Kwacky
When Triumph put their map on to test it did they take it off afterwards?

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:35
by jlawie
I believe so. Again why I'm so keen to get my TUNEECU cable working :(

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 15:43
by Monty
jlawie wrote:
Monty wrote:Might be the throttle position sensor, which unfortunately you need TuneECU to adjust.

Have you had your valve clearances checked recently? Poor cold starting can be an indicator that they need adjusting.
My thoughts too. I doubt they've ever been checked in 21k
Mine needed adjustment at 12k and were checked again at 24k and didn't need any. Up to 40k now so I probably won't bother again.

If you're certain they've never been checked I'd say do it anyway. Also might be worth getting the throttle bodies balanced if you haven't already.

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:09
by jlawie
No certain, but I bought the bike on 12,000 miles. Dealer said it was checked, but always had my doubts

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:16
by C00kiemonster
TPS or the throttle bodies need balancing, both of which tuneecu will help you with, however you will need a carbtune to do the bodies properly.

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:28
by jlawie
Need to find someone local with a working tuneecu set up then! Doh!

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:29
by Kwacky
Where are you?

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:30
by jlawie
Hemel Hemsptead / Aylesbury area

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 16:35
by Rob
If you can get over to Billericay I have the cable and TuneECU

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 20:39
by jlawie
Cheers for the offer dude. Bit worried its the obd on the bike rather than the cable though.

Ill have another go on a different laptop over the weekend

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 20:56
by Deegee
If Triumph could connect to the bike when the map was changed the OBD plug and wiring is likely to be ok, as they use that plug to connect as well.

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 15 May 2014, 21:00
by jlawie
Deegee wrote:If Triumph could connect to the bike when the map was changed the OBD plug and wiring is likely to be ok, as they use that plug to connect as well.
Fair point!

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 22:13
by jlawie
Bikes still being a royal PITA!

Every time I start it really struggles to fire up. Today though....once I got riding, the speedo just sat at zero constantly.

Anyone seen/had that before?

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 22:15
by Kwacky
Time for a new one ;)

Re: Daytona 600 Stalling (still)

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 22:17
by jlawie
Kwacky wrote:Time for a new one ;)
Crossed my mind many a time mate!

Just can't bring myself to do it.