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Everyone's favourite "Uncle Putin" is such a pivotal figure in global affairs, that I felt it was rather unfair of us not to have a thread in his honour.?

Unlike the Trump-et, his wife Lyudmila does not feel an appropriate thread title so I hope "Uncle Vlad" is acceptable ?

I see his prime minster has stepped down after Vlad decided to change the rules again, which would allow Putin to remain in power beyond 2024.

Surely he'll have made his money by then? I know everyone talks about Putin being this powerful leader but there's a lot of money backing him. It would be interesting to know much control Putin actually has.

So I'll start the ball rolling.: (except Kwacky's faster at typing than me )

He's playing the long game, we all know that.
And (imho) you usually have to give a lot of consideration & imagination to try figure out his intentions & motives. -Even retrospectively they can appear like a chess master with the luck of the devil.

So WTF is he up to with his home politics.? -I sure as hell can't figure this one out.!
The fact that the Russian government has resigned suggests to me that they have an inkling.?

Kwacky wrote:..... I know everyone talks about Putin being this powerful leader but there's a lot of money backing him. .....

Fwiw I honestly don't believe Putin's in it for the money.?

I dont know what to make of him as he surely cant be as bad as our press make him out to be?

I dont trust what i'm told from the press at the best of times, but he certainly seems to be clever, unlike many of the politicians on the world stage...

StMarks wrote: Fwiw I honestly don't believe Putin's in it for the money.?

Nor do I. I think he's an old school Soviet who wants to see what Russia can achieve.

But it was money that put him in power.

He's on his fourth term in office, just how long of a "long game" is he going to play, and when is it expected to start??

Lemme guess...it's already begun, and we are but mere pawns on his global chessboard. Am I close??

I think he is very much an old school soviet leader in the style of Stalin - maybe not quiet as ruthless towards his own people unless they are Ukrainian .
With the resignation of the entire parliament he is essentially the new Czar .

Apart from him taking Crimea, invading Ukraine, putting bases in Syria, changes to the law to protect his position, playing about with the gas supplies to Europe

That sort of thing?

EDIT: I was replying to D41

Fair enough, but the UK has also increased the number of troops it has in Syria over the last year or so, as it takes over recently vacated US bases.
I mean, there's quite a few countries have bases in Syria, it's not like Russia is alone in that regard.

I didn't say they are. You asked about Russia, not the rest of the world

It's pretty easy for the UK to increase their troop numbers given that they started at zero.

C00kiemonster wrote:I dont know what to make of him as he surely cant be as bad as our press make him out to be?......

I don't know Cookie.: Fwiw it seems to me that "our press" largely ignore Russia, don't believe there's much interest from our public ( & that's what sells & therefore drive their media business).?

Kwacky wrote:...I. I think he's an old school Soviet who wants to see what Russia can achieve.

But it was money that put him in power.

Do you think it's a case of the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. The Vory may have put him in power, but he seems (to me) to acquiesce to their money making activities rather than being under their control exactly.?

Jack wrote:I think he is very much an old school soviet leader in the style of Stalin - maybe not quiet as ruthless towards his own people unless they are Ukrainian .
With the resignation of the entire parliament he is essentially the new Czar .

Have to agree with you & Kwacky.: His actions & conduct generally seem to suggest he's more motivated by power & appreciation than the mere trappings of wealth.
2024 is not far away now, so it seems likely he is preparing for that. I simply struggle to see how he's going to seamlessly achieve his enduring attorney of the Russian State.

Once someone sets them self up as ‘God Almighty’ in their own Country, eventually there will be someone or some group who want to wrestle power from them by any means.

C00kiemonster wrote:I dont know what to make of him as he surely cant be as bad as our press make him out to be?

I dont trust what i'm told from the press at the best of times, but he certainly seems to be clever, unlike many of the politicians on the world stage...

I think hes great ,I have worked in Russia and a soft leader wouldnt work

So, while the unexpected bonus effect of Sputnik V has been that it seems more effective than their ongoing hacking & disinformation strategy at dividing opinions amongst their neighbours...
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