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Rossgo air can be an absolute bitch to get out and your certainly wont see it.

I've known some calipers have the bleed nipple about 1mm below the highest point of the calipers when installed and unless you manipulate the calipers postion you will never get it out. You may have a tiny air bubble stuck in the MC that you cant displace to the caliper nipple and you could bleed till the cows come home with no bubbles expelled and still have air in there.

Anything could have happened between now and April mate. Definitely need a good bleed and proving the system is free off air. If the lever isnt almost solid then there is air in their buddy. Not alot but enough to reduce performance.

Out of interest how would I manipulate the calipers or the master cylinder to bleed fully, as I couldn't take them off to bleed them, if that makes sense?

I'm fairly certain I haven't done anything different to what the lads would of done at my local garage. I haven't been out on my bike for a few weeks now but the last time they were still decent enough. Also seems strange why manufacturers would pair up 2 different brands together for brakes eg Brembo calipers and Nissin MC. I realise it be down to price but they should go hand in hand really

I have heard some bleed points aren't correct on some bikes. And my caliper bleed points are a b&^ch just to get too to be honest, it's like they have designed it to be difficult! They really should be on the outside of the caliper not inside

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Rossgo wrote:Out of interest how would I manipulate the calipers or the master cylinder to bleed fully, as I couldn't take them off to bleed them, if that makes sense?

I'm fairly certain I haven't done anything different to what the lads would of done at my local garage. I haven't been out on my bike for a few weeks now but the last time they were still decent enough. Also seems strange why manufacturers would pair up 2 different brands together for brakes eg Brembo calipers and Nissin MC. I realise it be down to price but they should go hand in hand really

I have heard some bleed points aren't correct on some bikes. And my caliper bleed points are a b&^ch just to get too to be honest, it's like they have designed it to be difficult! They really should be on the outside of the caliper not inside

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Just rotate the caliper as needed so the nipple is the highest point. Air will always rise and settle at the top and if there is a nice little pocket it will just sit there.

I would definitely bleed at the MC first though just to prove no air trapped there .

Blade wrote:

Rossgo wrote:Out of interest how would I manipulate the calipers or the master cylinder to bleed fully, as I couldn't take them off to bleed them, if that makes sense?

I'm fairly certain I haven't done anything different to what the lads would of done at my local garage. I haven't been out on my bike for a few weeks now but the last time they were still decent enough. Also seems strange why manufacturers would pair up 2 different brands together for brakes eg Brembo calipers and Nissin MC. I realise it be down to price but they should go hand in hand really

I have heard some bleed points aren't correct on some bikes. And my caliper bleed points are a b&^ch just to get too to be honest, it's like they have designed it to be difficult! They really should be on the outside of the caliper not inside

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Just rotate the caliper as needed so the nipple is the highest point. Air will always rise and settle at the top and if there is a nice little pocket it will just sit there.

I would definitely bleed at the MC first though just to prove no air trapped there .

I was thinking this but over thought what you were saying lol! Ok this is a job I can do. I'll have a play when it dries up a bit next month.

Cheers Blade and Kwacky

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As you havent got ABS, the lever should be very firm with minimal travel. If it isnt you have a tiny amount of air in there and reading everything you've said I suspect this is highly likely your issue and definitely needs proving otherwise first imo. A tiny amount of air wont be dangerous but could be robbing you of some feel and performance.

Still consider a MC upgrade, but my personal opinion is make sure the current system is 100% first.

I have an Accossato m/c wonderful feel and more than enough power

Ok I'll be doing this first before anything else. Cheers again

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Jack wrote:I have an Accossato m/c wonderful feel and more than enough power

I never heard of this manufacturer before today!! Is there enough adjustability for it? How long have you had it for?

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I've had a couple of their master cylinders. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them

There used in wsbk Rossgo. Decent kit.

Some are adjustable ratio (the one I suggested) some are a single fixed ratio and subsequently a little cheaper.

Kwacky wrote:I've had a couple of their master cylinders. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them

Out of interest which bikes did you have them on? I know you had the Kwacka for a long time and that MC was gods gift. Very sharp, almost too sharp for road use really had to adjust your head to fit the braking style in my opinion but made it a hoot to use lol

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Ahh ok Blade. So they are good then. A lot of thinking about it all. It would be the final stage I think in the braking area without comprising the bike, hence why I wouldn't mind one. It really would be the perfect bike then in my opinion, not that it isn't right now but I wouldn't mind a little more bling haha

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Cbr600rr and cb1000r

How do you think they felt after the upgrade Kwacky?

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I really noticed it on the 600. Very strong but loads of feel.

I didn't have the 1000 long enough to know.

had mine 8 years on the Daytona 600 , transformed the braking and fully adjustable with different ratio levers and a dial adjuster .

Sounds like it did the job amazingly well. There are not many mods I'd like to do but the ones I have done have been big steps forward and by the sounds of it the MC is a fantastic option

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Here you go Rossgo a nice second hand one for you if you fancy a bit of motogp bling

Only 1,700 Mars bars to you mate

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/b ... new.73231/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Blade wrote:Here you go Rossgo a nice second hand one for you if you fancy a bit of motogp bling

Only 1,700 Mars bars to you mate

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/b ... new.73231/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't see it mate as not logged into their forum lol!

1700 bars...I's a deal. Meet me outside work

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Just so I can reference this on my current bike I have a

Master cylinder bore size of 17.5mm

Caliper bore size of 32.0mm


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