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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 10:20
by duke63
He also said it needs a full system to get the benefits of the engine improvements.

You can’t get away from the fact that noise and emissions regulations are stifling performance quite a bit.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 10:41
by Jack
^^^ and this is why the middleweight class has gone from 600 to around 800cc in order to maintain the same performance levels even the litre class has started to go to 1100+ cc for road bikes in many cases .

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 12:12
by Blade
duke63 wrote:He also said it needs a full system to get the benefits of the engine improvements.

You can’t get away from the fact that noise and emissions regulations are stifling performance quite a bit.
A proper LE bike would have come with a works race exhaust and a dongle for the ECU or maybe that will be one of the 35 optional accessories (lol)

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 13:36
by D41
I think Honda & Yamaha making the switch from 600 to 800 would be the bellwether to go by for the middleweight class.
It always seems as far as sales go, those two make a killing while the rest circle for scraps.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 14:41
by Rossgo
Agreed with Blade. Unsure why they haven't pushed the boat out with this and made the performance second to none. I am disappointed with 130 brake for a 765. I was expecting more but isn't it all carbon fibre panels?

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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:00
by duke63
It’s a 765RS Street Triple with a revised frame, some nice suspension add ons and carbon bodywork. The guy I was talking to reckoned the full system and a remap would have it with higher bhp than the Moto 2 bikes.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:06
by Blade
duke63 wrote:It’s a 765RS Street Triple with a revised frame, some nice suspension add ons and carbon bodywork. The guy I was talking to reckoned the full system and a remap would have it with higher bhp than the Moto 2 bikes.
It's a 675r chassis (frame, swing arm, forks, shock) with a 765rs engine, ecu and TFT screen plus some carbon panels and not alot more.

I can well believe it has potential for more power than a moto2 engine Duke, as Triumph capped power output at Dornas request as Dorna didnt want moto2 fast riders times getting close to the back of the motogp grid times.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:08
by Blade
Wonder if anyone has asked for their deposit back, I know I would be if it was me (wasntme)

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:31
by Monty
It will be a great track bike, but Triumph really missed the boat on this. Should have given it a Moto 2 carbon fairing and sold it for 5 grand more.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:36
by Monty
....... with a light weight wheels and a factory ACU options at 25k

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:56
by Rossgo
Monty well said..limited edition means people would pay big money for something that really did push the boat out. They could of done a lot more

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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:57
by Blade
I think that's what everyone was expecting Monty (y)

People will pay mega bucks for exotica but dont want to pay strong money for a bit more than average.

It will be a great bike but they over hyped it by a country mile.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 18:08
by duke63
I suspect it will be the last sportsbike Triumph make.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 18:32
by Blade
duke63 wrote:I suspect it will be the last sportsbike Triumph make.
It will be if people are asking for their deposits back (blush)

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 10:57
by Cav
Marketing did a great job
Engineering did a great job
Sales did a typical sales thing - over promise and under deliver.

Not sure which category aesthetics come under but they should have changed drastically for this bike IMO

Parts bin special it is

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 20:33
by duke63
Interesting piece on the differences from my engine to the LE Moto 2 bike.

https://www.cycleworld.com/how-does-tri ... XvnS2uQ8tE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 22:01
by C00kiemonster
duke63 wrote:Interesting piece on the differences from my engine to the LE Moto 2 bike.

https://www.cycleworld.com/how-does-tri ... XvnS2uQ8tE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very interesting. They have not had one failure yet in the whole season of Moto2.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 07:22
by Cav
Triumph were concerned with the abuse the engines were getting because of the Moto2 boys abusing engines with 1000RPM over-rev on downshifts... yet still no failures.

The claimed 128bhp is pathetic though, my bike has the same claimed bhp

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 07:29
by D41
To be fair, I think it's more likely that it's a pretty honest 128bhp they're stating.

Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 07:43
by Cav
Honest in what sense? Kawasaki were extremely honest with their claim unlike Suzuki and Honda.

If by "pretty honest" you actually mean their claimed bhp is their wbhp then possibly.

Obviously I'm not ignoring the fact it's a torque monster because it absolutely is. I wanted to absolutely love this bike but I don't.