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Allegedly Johnson cried when he heard his brother had quit. It will soon be little more than a hard right wing party.

What’s the odds on the LibDems being the party in power? Must be falling all the time.

To be honest whatever side of the fence you fall on this is going to end in violence.

Already erupted yesterday in London and it will get worse.

I'm not sure why so many are avoiding the election whether now, next month or the one after that.. no one either leave or remain will forget this and the people will decide.

It's not a GE it will be the second referendum.

I'm not a great believer in the polls and at this moment in time it is so difficult to gauge but as each remain MP leaves government either by resigning or being pushed , Boris has a power surge.

Having the vote in the first place and acknowledging it will be implemented whatever , happened, and now we are where we are.

Why anyone wants to prolong it must be mad .

I did read on twitter this morning that it took over a year to get Sarah's law through the Lords but 24 hours for the latest remain bill ...something inherently wrong somewhere

Bills get prioritised by importance. Emotion isn't a factor

bb41 wrote:..... I'm not sure why so many are avoiding the election......

I thought all the opposition parties (apart from the Brexit Party) had agreed with each other that they would deny Boris his call for a General Election, in order to prevent him from playing the system & using it to force through our un-arranged departure.?

Fwiw I suspect that Corbyn will have taken some persuading not to take the bait, judging from his usual conduct.?

Boris has a power surge by each Tory MP leaving the Party? How do you work that out? As each member leaves he has less and less power.

We have had one GE since the referendum and lets not forget that the parties who promoting Leave actually did worse than the previous election.

If Labour can actually get the young voters off their arse and out their voting, my guess is that the Remain side will hold power.

It's all well and good getting them out to vote...just need something to vote on as no one apart from Boris wants one

Sounds to me like Boris is going to end up dead in a ditch or in prison.

duke63 wrote:Sounds to me like Boris is going to end up dead in a ditch ....

Fwiw when he said that, it sounded to me like he inadvertently reiterated a threat that he had been issued, on the occasion that he fail in his one task to deliver them Brexit.

If he were to have the choice of that or some token period of imprisonment, it doesn't take a lot of working out to see that he's going to be perfectly happy to break the law in order to achieve brexit. Does it ?

This is going to be my last comment for now.

Anybody who thinks that Britain can walk away from 50% of its imports and exports in a free trade zone and add barriers and costs to that trade without it having a significant negative impact on its economy, knows very little about how it works. The banks believe that the fallout from that will be worse than the banking collapse of 11 years ago, something which parts of our economy have never recovered from and which small businesses took the brunt of.

The last few years of this Government have done nothing but cause me grief - financially and also a negative effect on my health with all the bullshit and nonsense of many of their policies, not just Brexit.

Frankly if they want to go and die in a ditch, i will be happy to dig the hole and bury them afterwards.

BB, my reason for not wanting a GE is because it distracts from the main job in hand. I don't give a toss who's in charge right not, just get the bloody job done

Once this is done, then I care who's in charge but until then they need to forget their petty games and to be honest, I think party's should be dissolved for the time being so they all pull together.

It looks like calls for a pre-Brexit election are dead in the water.

It doesn't help people fall in line with his wishes when Johnson is telling people he's looking for a way around the No Deal legislation.

Correct but I feel it would help with an election.. not that I think it's likely he'll be planning that far ahead

Johnson just got his arse handed to him.

What happened? I’m on the piss in London, not seen the news all day. Guessing it’s Taoiseach related?

He's got to hand over the no deal documents

My gut feeling is that May's deal with a slight amendment to Ireland will be approved by parliament before 31 October.

That seems to be the general consensus. Johnson will get enough support across the parties without having to worry about the DUP. This is why it was madness to try and call a general election before Brexit - the Brexit Party would try to block the deal.

It still needs some sort of customs union though.

I don't, in all honesty, think Johnson will be driving it anymore unless he can agree some new way of sorting Ireland. The feeling is that they will have to back down on Ireland and have an all-Ireland policy. That is the next step to Ireland being one country again. I think that might happen in my lifetime.

The Brexit party is a bigger danger to the Tories than Labour, IMHO. It could kill the Party for good.

That's why i suspect, when May's deal comes back for a vote before 31 October, which parliament is now legally obliged to do, there may well be enough Tories voting for it to pass if Labour, SNP and LibDems decide to back it.

It's laughable.. the best offer is the last offer that got no-voted. Just a recurring theme.

Cav wrote:It's laughable.. the best offer is the last offer that got no-voted. Just a recurring theme.

duke63 wrote:That is the next step to Ireland being one country again. I think that might happen in my lifetime..

Precisely,
I can't see any realistic resolution for the Irish backstop. Listening to Boris yesterday, it did indeed sound as though he was paving the way for removing Ireland from the UK.
The Vote Leave supporters who's inspiration was strengthening the United Kingdom's place in the world will have scored a home goal, won't they.?

Whilst it is preferable not to crash out, I do hope your expected "tweaked deal" is rejected again.
Every General Election is a referendum, to decide what government the people want to have controlling us. It is accepted that public opinions change, and therefore these are held regularly. That is accepted as the democratic way.
So why can't the same logic be applied to the Leave Referendum.?
Just because a lot of people who wouldn't normally vote were coerced into voting, imo should not mean that a more informed & inspired public should not be consulted.
This is FAR more important to all of us than a temporary choice of governing party, and yet the Brexiteeers seem adamant that the decision is irrevocable.