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Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 20:21
by duke63
This is a neat idea. Its a fully armored shirt that can be worn on its own in hot weather, or layered with a jacket over the top at other times.

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Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 20:35
by Kwacky
Good idea but the style needs changing.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:05
by Blade
I don't care how hot it gets, I like to where leather as I really dislike skin grafts (blush)

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:30
by Kwacky
Blade wrote:I don't care how hot it gets, I like to where leather as I really dislike skin grafts (blush)
Did you read it?

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:34
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:
Blade wrote:I don't care how hot it gets, I like to where leather as I really dislike skin grafts (blush)
Did you read it?
Yes

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:34
by Kwacky
So why mention skin grafts? I'm confused.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:45
by D41
Looks like the jackets the Sandmen wore in Logan's Run. And not in a good way.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:48
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:So why mention skin grafts? I'm confused.
Just being sarcastic and having a bit of banter (giggle)

I don't think you can beat leathers for abrasion resistance was all I was meaning.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:54
by duke63
Leather is the best as its like a second skin but sometimes more comfort and a little less protection I can live with.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 21:57
by Kwacky
I prefer my Klim jacket to any leather item I've owned. I appreciate the qualities of leather but I reckon in a crash I would be better off in the Klim.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:00
by D41
I think of synthetics as for urban/suburban riding & that's about it. And it is in the name, so fair enough, I suppose.
Riding to go & do something, as opposed to riding as something to do, I guess.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:04
by duke63
My new Oxford jacket is proving to be a bargain. Very comfy and fits well.

I would like try one of these Knox jackets under the Oxford jacket and then I can remove the standard armour from the Oxford and if it turned really warm, I could just remove the top layer.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:13
by kiwikrasher
“New Urbane Pro has been CE approved as a Class A garment under the CE standard pr-EN17092.”

“Classification A: Deemed suitable for urban riding, with Zone 1 requiring one second of abrasion resistance at 265.3rpm and half a second at 147.4rpm in Zone 2.”

I regularly ride in 30+ and occasion 40+ deg conditions, and still wear leather. I’ve also experienced a fair bit of crashing. I want more than 1 second abrasion resistance regardless of where I’m riding.

The benefit of these is hopefully the t-shirt wearing brigade might end up with extra protection. But I wouldn’t use one on the road.

And yes I read it all and read all the testing protocol for pr-EN17092.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:31
by duke63
The 1 second abrasion relates to the test which presumably is some kind of abrasive wheel. I have no idea what that equates to in sliding down the road though.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:34
by kiwikrasher
duke63 wrote:The 1 second abrasion relates to the test which presumably is some kind of abrasive wheel. I have no idea what that equates to in sliding down the road though.
Nether do I Duke and that’s my concern.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:38
by Kwacky
I find slamming into street furniture cuts down on the abrasion time.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:41
by duke63
The attached link says a bit more about what the standards mean.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/n ... -explained" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:44
by duke63
Kwacky wrote:I find slamming into street furniture cuts down on the abrasion time.

I think in most crashes, the impact protection is more important than abrasion resistance.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 23:38
by kiwikrasher
duke63 wrote:The attached link says a bit more about what the standards mean.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/n ... -explained" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That’s where I got my info too Duke. But as mentioned how that test equates to real world sliding down the road. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not rubbishing this top at all, just not what I personally would feel comfortable with.

In my job, I am as a matter of course constantly doing formal and informal risk assessments, comparing the risk of possible outcomes from planned actions. So for me personally, the mild discomfort of being in a leather or good quality textile jacket on hot days outweighs the discomfort from recovering from tarmac rash. I’ve ground skin quite significantly after grinding through leather before so bit gun shy.

If you are a scooter rider riding urban only and not ever hitting open road speeds then this would probably be right up your alley and much preferable to a T-Shirt.

Re: Knox Urbane Pro shirt

Posted: 01 May 2019, 09:27
by Rossgo
Imagine a fat man wearing that........

On a serious note like.others have mentioned for the urban rider who usually rides around in t shirts or hoodies I think this is a good idea but for us riders who enjoy s good blat I wouldn't bother!

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