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Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 04:03
by kiwikrasher
Still an active situation but has been shootings in Christchurch (South Island) at two mosques and a hospital where shooting victims were being treating. Initial reports are 9 dead so far. Police are searching for up to 3 men in a locked down area. A car crashed in a city street and was found to have a live bomb.

Going to be lots more to this unfortunate story.

Hasn’t been a mass shooting in NZ since 1990.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 04:07
by kiwikrasher
Bangladesh cricket team were all in one of the mosques. Not reports of any injuries to any of the team members yet.

Suspect shooter/s have just released a video online supposedly showing the attacks. gunman's manifesto Was a clear case of white supremacy says a security analyst.

One arrest and hunt for at least one other guman.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 05:25
by kiwikrasher
Seen POV video on the news of him pulling up, loading up with automatic rifles and walking up to a mosque. They cut the footage just as he aims at the first victim. Pretty harrowing.

Definitely a white supremacy attack. Weapons and ammunition magazines have messages written on them referencing European mosque attacks. Photos of the magazines were apparently online 2-3 days ago, on the “dark deep web” as reported. They’ve arrested the guy in the video but still unsure if there’s more as yet.

Edit: 4 arrested so far.

Bangladesh team all safe, but test match tomorrow cancelled.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 05:37
by D41
New Zealand Herald is reporting between 9 and 27 fatalities.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 05:41
by kiwikrasher
D41 wrote:New Zealand Herald is reporting between 9 and 27 fatalities.
Yeah a reporter that had seen the full video footage said “9 deaths reported so far but from the footage I’ve unfortunately just seen that number will be much much higher”

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 05:57
by D41
Yeah....I'm not seeing any footage - seems it's been pulled from the web....which is for the best. Watching a few reports at the moment. Seems it's currently still a live-fire situation.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 07:25
by Frankie
Nowhere is untouched by these people, (terrorist) :( Very sad. FFS.... Just saw some footage, not only attacked all the defenceless people he went back and finished people off..... I feel sick :( and very sad

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 08:39
by kiwikrasher
The video was taken from his FB, he bloody live streamed it.

40 confirmed dead so far.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 08:40
by duke63
The world is in a bad place at the moment.

Hate and division, as promoted by many politicians around the world currently including some here in the UK, is never a way forward.

The way we are going the human race will struggle to last another 100 years.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 08:56
by StMarks
Sounds like a truly appalling act, my thoughts are with the innocent victims.

These sorts of polarising acts only feed the divisions that (as Duke said) inevitably undermine our future development as a species.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 09:36
by Frankie
We won't last another 50 let alone 100 at this rate, we are going backwards.
I found this site which had his full vid playing, i hope that he is one of they guys they have, I saw his face in his rear view mirror.....

If I ever got caught up in something so horrific as this I would not play dead.... he made sure he done what he went to do :(
I have not looked, but I hope they have the death penalty, as they deserve no less.....sick fecking bastards.
You hear and see news on these things, and in the main we are protected from seeing such violence, to see 1st hand as his vid played out, I cannot unsee, and will never watch again...:(

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 09:40
by C00kiemonster
Just watching the coverage of this. Just horrendous :(

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 09:47
by Kwacky
A very sad day indeed.

Comments from the likes of Senator Fraser Anning do nothing to heal divides in society.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 12:57
by kiwikrasher
No death penalty in NZ or Aussie unfortunately Frankie.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 17:03
by Frankie
kiwikrasher wrote:No death penalty in NZ or Aussie unfortunately Frankie.
I really do think that for these acts of pure hate there or here or anywhere they should have a special clause to allow for instant death, they do not deserve to be on this planet..... there was no remorse in his voice, his actions or anything, just pure hate and the cold act of extermination of another human who had no way to protect or fight back..... SICK! ;(

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 18 Mar 2019, 14:08
by kiwikrasher
And this is why I’m proud to be a New Zealander...

https://trib.al/VrmOuxg

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 18 Mar 2019, 14:18
by D41
It's very laudable of them, but weren't the weapons used in the attack all bought a week or so prior to the event??

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 18 Mar 2019, 14:28
by Kwacky
Americans always argue that a ban on the sale of these weapons won't take them off the streets and won't stop shootings overnight.

But it's never going to be an overnight solution. Australia proved that. Weapons get lost, they stop working, they get recovered, they get handed in, ammunition gets lost, fired, can't be replaced.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 18 Mar 2019, 22:46
by kiwikrasher
D41 wrote:It's very laudable of them, but weren't the weapons used in the attack all bought a week or so prior to the event??
They were bought prior legally but then modified with illegally sourced high capacity magazines. But I don’t see how that diminishes the sentiment of normal kiwis deciding that even though a semi auto .22 is the perfect pest control tool, that privledge isn’t worth the risk to life. So they are handing in weapons in support of changes to guns laws that are sure to be enacted.

We don’t have a antiquated second amendment that we blinding use to argue a right to gun ownership. Farming and sport hunting is the predominant use of guns in NZ, and as reasonable people they have decided those uses don’t warrant the continued access to semi auto’s.

If he was using a bolt action weapon there would have been a lot less deaths.

Re: Mass Shooting in NZ

Posted: 18 Mar 2019, 23:11
by kiwikrasher
I grew up around guns, my Dad was a big time hunter, our freezer was always full of venison. I shot my first rifle at 3 and killed my first rabbit at 4 yrs old. Dad had 5 rifles. All single action bolt rifles. Never once was I given the impression he thought his weapon ownership was a given. The education was it was a privledge and to be treated with respect. Sunday nights were spent at the kitchen table helping him clean his guns and reloading ammunition. Before my teenage years my sport of choice was small bore competition target shooting and I was regularly shooting better than 90/100 scores. From all that I learnt respect and reaponsibility with guns.

Dad guns are always stored in a locked cabinet in the garage with the ammo and bolts stored separately in a safe inside. He has had a gun stolen before but got recovered as it was useless without its bolt.

Dad now is past hunting and only holds two guns. An antique WW1 .303 of his grandfathers and his Winchester .207. I’ll get them both when he passes. I currently don’t hold a gun licence or own a gun.

The purpose of my ramblings is to show the attitude of the normal Kiwi towards gun ownership. It’s not a right. It’s a privilege. The average kiwi is now questioning that privledge.

This event has hit the country to the core. I don’t live there anymore but I still feel like part of me has been ripped out and stamped on. We pride ourselves on being a safe, friendly and helpful nation. This is the polar opposite to our national identity.