Tank Slap - Motorcycle Forum

Why are so many bikers against securing their bikes?

I see it time and time again when the issue of alarms comes up on a forum or on facebook.

"a van and a couple of blokes could nick it in seconds" is a common reason for not bothering to look after your pride and joy.

There's a thread on the Versys forum. One bloke argues his case by telling us a story of how a £300 disc lock (really?) failed. Yet he goes ont o say how the thieves were caught in the act and chased away. If the lock wasn't there would the bike still have been?

Maybe I'm more paranoid since I had a bike nicked, but decent security costs a lot less than the policy excess and the 5 years of increased premiums.

I put an alarmed disc lock on mine, and chain it up in the garage most of the time (sometimes I forget or its just too dark too see as I have no lighting out there) and at my old office I chained it up daily (high risk area) the new office Ill admit I just do the dick lock but that's coz its In the middle of absolutely no where and there is no through traffic and its all pretty secure out of the way.

I had a bike knicked too and I use the security more as a deterrant, yes, if someone really wants to steal it then they will despite the precautions I take, BUT if it stops the guys just walking by who think itll be a laugh or other opportunistic idiots then its done its job.

Cavetroll87 wrote: I just do the dick lock but that's coz its In the middle of absolutely no where and there is no through traffic and its all pretty secure out of the way.

Do you attach it to your Prince Albert?

It's just a question of priorities, isn't it??

Kwacky wrote:

Cavetroll87 wrote: I just do the dick lock but that's coz its In the middle of absolutely no where and there is no through traffic and its all pretty secure out of the way.

Do you attach it to your Prince Albert?

yup.

(Probably should have proof read that but hey why not pretend im so well endowed I can use it to secure a motorcycle)

Think it depends more on how you use it. Mine is either locked in a garage with 2.5 tons of Land Rover blocking the door or I'm with it. I don't commute on it, so never leave out on the street, hence no security for me.

Bike security? Whats that?

2x Guard dogs, 24hr cctv monitoring on both access roads, bikes in a locked & bolted bikeshed where they're chained down as well as having Xena alarmed disc locks.
Imho the best security is ensuring your bikes location is unknown. Once the thieving scumbag fraternity know what you've got & where, it's always going to be a concern.

Always secure my bike. The one time.i didn't (by complete accident) an opportunist took advantage. However the second time was fully chained up and disc locked up etc there was a van who pulled up a threw it into the back and drove off. If they really want it then their going to have it BUT I am a big believer that it stops the opportunist and also delays the proper thieves too maybe with just enough time to deal with them

Always spend money on security in my opinion

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What would you guys recommend for my workshop?

I plan on leaving the bike on stands with wheels off. Door is a french UPVC multi-lock door. Window is UPVC multi-lock. Built from bricks and blocks. Roof is probably the easiest way in and wouldn't trigger the security light either but the bike would still have to come out through the garden. They could unscrew the gate lock from the inside.

It would take at least 20 minutes for someone to break into the workshop and put the wheels on the bike while someone is breaking the door open (although from the inside you could remove the glazing and remove the entire door frame) and another couple of minutes to get the bike out of the garden.

Ground anchor and chain wouldn't help if the wheels are off unless I put the chain through the chassis somehow.

Alarm on the workshop and motion detecting camera could help.

Sounds like you've got it covered.

Have you got blinds for the windows so people can't look in?

Not yet but it will be getting some. You can see straight into it currently and I've got my tools in there - that makes me uncomfortable enough.

Have you any experience with chain covers? Thinking about putting the chain through the chassis but it's obviously going to destroy the finish of the frame after the first use (I'm thinking of using 3/4" diameter chain links for security as it will weigh a ton and would need an angle grinder).

Cav wrote:What would you guys recommend for my workshop?
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Where will Elsie be sleeping.? -Thieving scroates hate dogs

All of my chains have coverings on the links. Even the 19mm one.

Have you ever owned a Spaniel? They're pleased to see everyone! (rofl)

She sleeps in our bed... usually under the cover on the Fiancé's feet

@Kwacky.. which 19mm chain do you have?

Almax Chains

Squire Locks

Ground Anchor.

Sensor linked to something that alarms and pings your phone?

This ground anchor is a good idea:

Looks like a good design but I didn't know where I wanted it when I poured the concrete for the floor.

I'll use your standard bolt down style with shear-off dome head bolts. Again, not completely theft proof but they're still going to need to use an angle grinder.

The alarm which pings your phone is a good idea though!

For the majority of daylight hours, and virtually all nights I have a 2.5 tonne 4 wheel drive blocking the only access to the back garden where the bike is kept

I've found that to be quite effective so far..

The £300 disc lock was possibly a roadlock... They get gummed up with road crap being bolted to a caliper.

For me i have an almax bigbastard chain and ground anchor in the garage with my car blocking the door and a cheapish tracker.
I dont commute on it and have a disc lock for when im out and about.

Cal, I'll have a look at the chain details when I get home. I might have an un used spare ground anchor. I'll have a look for that as well.