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Monty wrote:“The war of 1914-18 was imperialist (that is, an annexationist, predatory, war of plunder) on the part of both sides; it was a war for the division of the world, for the partition and repartition of colonies and spheres of influence of finance capital.” - Lenin

Their wars, our dead

D41 wrote:

Monty wrote:“The war of 1914-18 was imperialist (that is, an annexationist, predatory, war of plunder) on the part of both sides; it was a war for the division of the world, for the partition and repartition of colonies and spheres of influence of finance capital.” - Lenin

Their wars, our dead

You do realise that you're quoting someone who helped to start, & subsequently led, revolutionary forces in a long & bloody civil war in his own country ??

D41 wrote:Hang on.....WHEN did Lenin say this??

Declaration of the Rights of the Peoples of Russia
one of the first acts of the Soviet state, confirmed by the Sovnarkom (Council of People’s Commissars) of the RSFSR on Nov. 2 (15), 1917. The declaration strongly condemns the policy of provoking one people against another, a policy carried out by the tsarist government and subsequently by the bourgeois Provisional Government in the case of the peoples inhabiting Russia. This policy of oppression of peoples was contrasted with the policy of voluntary union of the peoples of Russia. The declaration proclaims the following fundamental principles of the Leninist policy on peoples: equality and sovereignty of the peoples of Russia; the right of the peoples of Russia to free self-determination, including secession and the formation of an independent state; the abolition of all privileges and restrictions based on ethnic or ethnic-religious distinctions; and the free development of national minorities and ethnic groups inhabiting the territory of Russia.
REFERENCE
Istoriia Sovetskoi-Konstitutsii: Sb. dokumentov 1917-1957. Moscow, 1957. Pages 19-20.

D41 wrote:Dude....he started a civil war in which thousands died - you're telling me that's the ideal way to form a govt., to terrorize a people into subjugate obedience??

StMarks wrote:When all told, the "War to end all Wars" was fought between sovereign nations, embarked for political reasons & at huge cost to the peoples of all sides.
IMHO we have already failed to honour their sacrifice, by failing to learn the lesson from that first global conflict.
Nonetheless I believe that, one hundred years later the fact that (we) have voted to effectively to try to head back down the Nationalist route is to further piss on their graves.
Watching that documentary, and listening to the integrity & honesty of those interviewed, made me further ashamed of the result of our referendum.

Frankie wrote:

StMarks wrote:When all told, the "War to end all Wars" was fought between sovereign nations, embarked for political reasons & at huge cost to the peoples of all sides.
IMHO we have already failed to honour their sacrifice, by failing to learn the lesson from that first global conflict.
Nonetheless I believe that, one hundred years later the fact that (we) have voted to effectively to try to head back down the Nationalist route is to further piss on their graves.
Watching that documentary, and listening to the integrity & honesty of those interviewed, made me further ashamed of the result of our referendum.

Totally agree....