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Sounds like the Lecister City's owners helicopter crashed when leaving the stadium after this evenings game with him in it.

A quick check of the news feeds doesn't say anything about the occupants.
I'd take that as a bad sign.

Confirmation in news reports this morning he was inside it as it came down, I’m not a footie fan, but that’s horrendous for family and friends of all concerned.

Helicopters. - wouldn't get me inside one.

duke63 wrote:Helicopters. - wouldn't get me inside one.

Still safer statistically than a car! Just when it does go wrong your chances are limited. It’s deffinitely the best way to work commute in my opinion.

*(Apart from that time the fleet was grounded due to the Norway crash of the same helicopter type and I spent an extra week at work )

Doesn't surprise me one bit if they're safer than cars.
End of the day you've got a professional flying the thing....as opposed to anybody-under-the-sun driving a car.

Those small private plane accidents are no different.....it's always some jobsworth that thinks he's Biggles.

kiwikrasher wrote:

duke63 wrote:Helicopters. - wouldn't get me inside one.

Still safer statistically than a car! Just when it does go wrong your chances are limited. It’s deffinitely the best way to work commute in my opinion.

*(Apart from that time the fleet was grounded due to the Norway crash of the same helicopter type and I spent an extra week at work )

Be interested to understand how those statistics are worked out.

Its quite astonishing how many of the rich and famous have died in helicopter crashes.

duke63 wrote:

kiwikrasher wrote:

duke63 wrote:Helicopters. - wouldn't get me inside one.

Still safer statistically than a car! Just when it does go wrong your chances are limited. It’s deffinitely the best way to work commute in my opinion.

*(Apart from that time the fleet was grounded due to the Norway crash of the same helicopter type and I spent an extra week at work )

Be interested to understand how those statistics are worked out.

Its quite astonishing how many of the rich and famous have died in helicopter crashes.

To be honest Duke, I was being a bit flippant. As you say it depends on the data used. Record fatalities/X number of people and it looks heaps safer. But look at operating hours vs fatalities and helicopters are wildly more unsafe.

That said, and with my aircraft trade behind me as knowledge l’m more than happy to spend a 1.5 hr or 2.5 hours (do both) over open water.

But I also like going too fast on bikes with limited skills so my opinion isn’t that reliable.

Well, statistically they aren't going to die in a Reliant Robin!

I wonder what the AAIB's investigation will conclude.?
Emergency fuel shut-off accidentally employed, or perhaps a drone strike causing a freak loss of drive.?

The problem with a helicopter is that if anything goes wrong with the rotors, you are sitting in a lump of metal built like a brick that will do only one thing.

Same is true of a car, train or plane

Anyway, let's not forget a few fine people have lost their lives in a tragic accident.

They are saying it seems the pilot may have aimed for the empty car park, if true, the guy is a hero as it could have been so much worse if he had hit the stadium again, cant imagine having that presence of mind to think that clearly as your coming down.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that if a helicopter's engine suddenly gives out, the transmission disengages from the rotor to give the pilot some steerability as it's going down.
Down, down, down.
Down to the ground.

Saw the report this afternoon on the news. Tragic. Poor family.

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D41 wrote:I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that if a helicopter's engine suddenly gives out, the transmission disengages from the rotor to give the pilot some steerability as it's going down.
Down, down, down.
Down to the ground.

Trouble with that D41, is that apparently they were just beginning the ascent and had only reached around 200 feet. It doesn't take long for a 4.5 tonne lump of metal to fall to earth from 200 ft.

A handily - if inappropriately named website has a calculator for such things, should you jump off the Burq Khalifa and wish to find out your terminal velocity (assuming free fall), this is the link you’ll need:

https://www.angio.net/personal/climb/speed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That said, I’ve assumed metres instead of feet and it calculates thus:
Either which way, as Guy Martins Grandfather said “When you dead, you dead”.

I thought weight didn't matter in freefall??

I bet kiwi, a regular user of helicopters, is loving this thread

D41 wrote:I thought weight didn't matter in freefall??

It doesn't with regards to acceleration, but it does significantly increase the energy at impact.