yeah I'm not to fussed about the water proof aspect, as long as they handle a light sprinkle, just after something that will handle below 15 deg with the grip heaters on. These are touted as water resistant rather than waterproof anyways.
We do get decent rain here at times though... remember the 18 months of repeat floods we had
I just don't head out for a recreational ride in that shite.. and have over gloves under the seat with my wet weather over suit if I do get caught in the rain.