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StMarks wrote:

Kwacky wrote:So you're encouraging people not to think for themselves and to only accept what they're being told in a controlled environment?

I don't understand how you conclude that from what I have written Kwacky.?

Fwiw I think it is vitally important that people are encouraged to think for themselves, and never to be blinkered by the opinions of others. I think people should be taught facts, & fiction should be something that can be sought out for entertainment.

In terms of the history of the world, its not that long ago everyone thought it was a fact that it was flat. Its the case that most religions talk of a God and is it not possible that this 'God' is the same on for all religions but just that they choose a different path to that belief?

EVERYONE has a right to have their own beliefs (or should do in a civilized society). And Its an absolute fact that no one knows what happens when we die.

Therefore no one has the right to tell me what i believe is wrong.

Worth having a read on Buddhism.
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Its not religion per se that causes conflict but the men in charge of it in this world that do.

kiwikrasher wrote:..Now the problem with your statement in bold St Marks (even though I agree to some extend the basis of your idea) is who determines what is fact? There has been many an educated theological argument presented to determine that religious beliefs are fact. Some agree, some don't. So if you are mandating "teaching of facts only" and determine religion can't be taught, aren't you just behaving the same way as the religious zealots? "I'm right and this is the only way I tell you!"

Thanks for your rational & well structured response guys.
You are right, of course. Mandating that religion should not be taught is not an ideal scenario because we should all be free to choose. However as I pointed out earlier..:

StMarks wrote:...... People should be entirely free to believe whatever medieval fairy stories, and follow whatever perverse & pointless customs they choose. We all get just one life to spend as we see fit..

My concern isn't with people doing as they want. Rather my suggestion is that there should not be a mandate for taking those beliefs & inflicting them onto others.?

duke63 wrote:In terms of the history of the world, its not that long ago everyone thought it was a fact that it was flat. Its the case that most religions talk of a God and is it not possible that this 'God' is the same on for all religions but just that they choose a different path to that belief?....

Fwiw I don't believe I have ever suggested that a belief in a "God" is unreasonable. You along with a great many more intelligent people & learned people than me are believers of one type or another, and I respect your choice.

duke63 wrote:.......Its not religion per se that causes conflict but the men in charge of it in this world that do.

Sadly that is where our views start to diverge mate.
Whilst a belief in the existence of a greater power is all well and good, Organised Religion is not
Organised Religions are simply a man conceived abstraction, to take that concept and wrap it up in perverse & customs & practices & then indoctrinate as many people as possible to those precise customs & practices.
That is where the problem lies IMHO.
I have no problem with good honourable intelligent people like yourself, paying their respects on a Sunday morning with other like minded souls.
It seems to me that actually the display of reverence to a higher authority is generally indicative of a good moral integrity.
Furthermore I have no isse with a Cleric preaching his sermon to those who have chosen to attend, I do like a good moral tale that gives me pause for thought.

Kwacky wrote:Mix them.

Actually that's a very nice drink.

Called French connection. 50/50 over ice is lovely

But how are you going to get the blocks of ice in the hip flask?

Don’t stuff about, just go a hydration pack with ice and premix

It's England and winter ice is freely available.

I'll just wipe some of a windscreen and make a alcoholic slush

If it’s a Winter Christmas Market surely hot Glühwein with the optional rum topper is standard issue?

Brandy Brandy and another shot of Brandy for old boy Blade

That's the spirit....pun intended.

I don't think I've ever tried brandy??

Spoil yourself D and give it a try.

Doesn't have to be expensive but also stay clear of the cheap crap and then just enjoy

LOLZ.....I don't think that's a good idea!!!

Fook it u only live once.

Some boring Muppet will says it wrong but what do they know

Lol. I haven't had anything to drink in over 2 years!!

You defy science