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SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 12:42
by Cav
This is probably the first post of mine that you'll come across so Hi!

I'm after your personal experiences with the above Brake Pads...

I currently use Brembo SC pads but they only last me 2 trackdays and cost £120+ which is a figure I can't continue to support. I am therefore looking for a cheaper pad but also a performance upgrade.

I will be replacing the OEM discs on my dry wheels to Brembo 320mm. At this point I will replace the pads.

My questions are these:
- Is there a noticeable difference between DC and DS?
- Which last the longest?
- How do they both feel/perform? (fact not opinion please)

Thanks :)

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 12:52
by Kwacky
Are you currently running the OEM brake discs?

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 13:42
by Cav
Technically yes..

..The bike is off the road for Winter when I will be replacing the discs with Brembo 320mm discs. That's when I plan to fit the new pads and rebuild the calipers.

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 13:51
by Blade
Have a look at the tech link I have posted below but if it was me the SBS DS as will give you 90% of the DC performance but last much longer which is one of your big priorities.

Tech info here:

http://uk.sbs.dk/business-areas/motorcy ... -lane.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 13:55
by Cav
I saw that chart, that's the only thing (besides price) that is putting me off as it says about being a national level and I'm only in the back half of the qualifying times currently.

Are the DS the brakes which require a lot of heat build up or is that the DC?

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:03
by Blade
According to the tech chart the DS have the better cold performance therefore I would say the DS are the ones which need heat to get the best from.

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:08
by Cav
THese things are so confusing !!

I'm struggling to find a set of DS for less than £200 !!!! If this is the case then I will be forced to use DC

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:11
by Blade
What year is your zx6r ?

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:12
by Kwacky
I asked on Facebook for you.

Dave is a former 600 national EMRA champion so he knows his onions
https://m.facebook.com/groups/837266046 ... up_comment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:13
by Blade
You looked at Bendix they do some great pads and never read a bad review.

http://www.pdq1.com/brand.php?BrandID=2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:16
by Cav
It's an 09. I can get DC for £70 for both calipers. Some sites are charging £270 for the DS pads !!

Never heard of Bendix personally. A few mates of mine raved about SBS for a while while I was raving about the Brembos so thought I'd give them a go

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:18
by Kwacky
Bendix will work better with your OEM discs. I run the MRR but at your pace I would step up to the MCR.

I don't really get on with SBS, they feel soft.

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:18
by Kwacky
I presume you've swapped the brake lines?

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:26
by Blade
I had the sbs rs on my road bike and good upgrade over oem but would go sbs dc or bendix mcr at your pace. Both good bang for the buck.

A lot of club racers and TT riders use Bendix.

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:27
by Blade
It's not the same company that make washing machines. ......














At least I dint think it is (blush)

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:43
by Cav
I thought I'd replied but clearly didn't press "Submit" - Idiot!

I swapped the lines for SS when I fitted Brembo SC and WOW! What a difference over stock

The thing in Bendix favour is the extra pad material compared with SBS. 9mm vs 7.8mm thick. That could help me get an extra day out of the pads maybe...

Thanks for all the advice !! I'm liking this place already

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:44
by MLR193
Now then cav!

Honestly the best thing to use is oem! You wouldn't believe how awesome they are, made specific to the caliper and power of the master cylinder etc! Learnt this off Nige Pitt when he loaned me the 675 as he found out of triumph triple challenge all use standard pads on any disc!

This was also backed up by my mate Ian poppewell and says that all the Japanese oem pads are Bob on and he doesn't use any other! I love bendix I really do cos there cheap and last well but there only on the bike now because I'm giving the bike a shake down and I didn't have 78 quid to hand. Soon as race season arrives in back to oem pads

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:44
by Kwacky
It's not the biggest or busiest of web forums but there's a good bunch on here who are always happy to help out.

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 14:49
by Cav
MLR193, that's difficult for me to comprehend as I went from OEM to EBC HH to Brembo SC and each time it was an improvement in feel and power. I really don't rate the OEM pads.

To try and help me get my head around this, is it a case that they are quick enough to make any brakes look good or is there a science to this?

Re: SBS DC (Dual Carbon) vs SBS DS (Dual Sintered)

Posted: 27 Oct 2015, 15:19
by Blade
Cav I agree with the above. The pads you are looking at have a higher coefficient of friction than the oem pads so it's fact they will out perform oem in like for like conditions.

Perhaps what Matt is trying to say is OEM is all you need rather than the best available.