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England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 10:45
by Kwacky
Is being sold off (facepalm)

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... developers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Many of England's best-loved forests and woodlands may be sold to large landowners, housing developers and international power companies in what could be the UK's greatest change of land ownership since the second world war.

Caroline Spelman, the environment secretary, is expected to announce a new strategy later this week that will lay the foundations for more than 150,000 hectares of forest and other land owned by the state in England to be sold within three years.


What about the empty houses, buildings, warehouses and industrial estates all over the country? Surely these should be used before we tarmac over the countryside?

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:25
by Si.
Some guy i know, who's a farmer in Cornwall, has been approached over 12 months ago to sell off his land...all of it.

The offer was several million £'s....


The offer came from Aides and property developers on behalf of Prince Charles. Go figure.

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:28
by Kwacky
Isn't he the Duke of Cornwall? He's usually against building on green land.

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:38
by Si.
yes... that's the ironic thing.

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:51
by bb41
grrrr, this is abhorrent. I hope I'm dead before I see development on every green bit of pasture and the damage to wildlife

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:54
by Perkles
he might be buying it and leaving it as is so nobody can develop on it

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 12:11
by Rossgo
To be honest guys we need to make more houses for people. I don't understand why people are against this, it's a great idea. What's countryside really good for? We have a fair few migrants coming here and we need them to be safe and have a good standard of living with work. All for it sell it we are just a island but who cares anymore squirrels and cows aren't going to make the country more money!

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 12:18
by Kwacky
Do you know there are more than 700,000 empty houses in the UK?

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 12:46
by D6
There's one next to me. They moved out and its been empty months. Can't possibly understand why.

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 15:16
by bb41
Ross I soooo don't agree. I think rather than making matters worse we need to try as much as we can to lessen the amount of accommodation we need ,
and I 'm not sure if your post was tongue in cheek!!
Try and utilise all the boarded up houses and maybe get some councils to compulsory purchase those houses that have been empty for years doing nothing but house vermin and the like

I love the countryside and it scares me that in future generations the only time young children will know what a field is like or wildlife is by looking at history books

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 17:42
by Rossgo
Kwacky wrote:Do you know there are more than 700,000 empty houses in the UK?
How many of them are on rough estates with crack heads in the corner waiting to stab someone for the extra cash though!?

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 17:45
by Kwacky
I don't think that's one of the tick boxes on the form :D

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 17:54
by Rossgo
Haha brilliant [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]

I'm surprised people haven't really pushed on this subject with what I said...I'm going to wait until some proper views come out!!

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 18:01
by Kwacky
The countryside does generate income, a lot of it. We need it unless you intend to rely solely on imported food. If you do that it cripples the economy and puts us dangerously in the hands of other countries who can control the food we need and the prices we have to pay for it.

There's a good company doing work to convert empty houses into homes http://www.emptyhomes.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Loads of facts and figures on there.

http://www.emptyhomes.com/statistics-2/ ... ce-201112/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 18:51
by Rossgo
As much as taxes though!? Build a few thousand houses and tax them, it's a win win!

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 18:57
by Rossgo
To be honest I thought people would be up in arms with what I said!!

Me personally I love the countryside, it angers me that the country would allow such a action of building on our areas. Plus where the hell will we ride when all the areas are 30s because of bloody houses!! No way just another reason why the country is going down hill

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 19:00
by duke63
There are already too many people and too many houses in this country. I can't wait to move out into the countryside.

Tesco own huge swathes of land, have paid over the odds for it and now have nothing to use it for as they now realise the supermarket industry has peaked.

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 19:07
by Rossgo
duke63 wrote:There are already too many people and too many houses in this country.
In 7 years of living in this area it had some very nice fields scattered all over the place, every year property developers have bought and built on them. Do people forget we are just a island?!

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 19:19
by R34PER
Does more housing = more flooding with less places for the rainfall to soak up?

If so i'll need to start saving for a gibbs quadski :)

Re: England's green and pleasant land

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 21:49
by Monty
We've got enough developable brownfield sites to build 1.5m houses, we'll be fine. This country isn't over crowded, it's just very badly planned out.