Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

The news and your views about biking
User avatar
Perkles
Posts: 5889
Joined: 11 Mar 2014, 21:51
Your Bike:
Location: birminghamshire
Has thanked: 2152 times
Been thanked: 1465 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Perkles »

the original r8 had no lower fairing but was added on release,it looks unfinished without it
User avatar
duke63
Posts: 15500
Joined: 22 Oct 2013, 07:34
Your Bike: Ducati 748/853 & Triumph Street Triple 765RS
Location: Staffordshire
Has thanked: 4177 times
Been thanked: 4132 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by duke63 »

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-new ... 25674.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

He's lucky to be alive if he's hit a bird at 200mph.
User avatar
D6
Posts: 2781
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:26
Your Bike: Speed Triple 1050SE a bit DEAD + S3 RS
Location: Staffordshire
Has thanked: 212 times
Been thanked: 653 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by D6 »

That would have knocked his block off.

Unless it was a humming bird.
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

Official information from Kawasaki on their website.

There is a nice 360 degree image of the bike so you view from every angle possible, some photos and video's, plus information on specification and design.

http://www.kawasaki-ninjah2.eu/en-GB/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

Cheers for the link

I still think it looks very aggressive.

I notice they're very light on information in the specifications section.
User avatar
duke63
Posts: 15500
Joined: 22 Oct 2013, 07:34
Your Bike: Ducati 748/853 & Triumph Street Triple 765RS
Location: Staffordshire
Has thanked: 4177 times
Been thanked: 4132 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by duke63 »

Weight is the one thing they seem reluctant to mention. I would guess that a supercharger adds a few kilos.

Its a bike that isn't beautiful but its appeal is in the made-for-a-purpose race looks.
User avatar
Deegee
Posts: 4206
Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 11:20
Your Bike: Daytona 675 & Tiger 900
Location: Côte d'Essex
Has thanked: 1046 times
Been thanked: 967 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Deegee »

With the supercharger, associated drive assy and general beefing up of everything to cope with the power and torque involved I'd be surprised if it tips the scales at less than 195kilos. However I'd guess they'll move heaven and Earth to bring the dry kerb weight in below 200kg, the psychological ramifications of a bike above that will cost sales and interest.

I could easily see the road going bike being over 200kg though, and tbh it won't matter in exactly the same way no one cared about the weight, reliability etc of the 916, the bike is likely to sell itself.
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

A Dry kerb weight of 200kg would be 225-230kg wet which is 20-35kg above the rest of the litre class which effect sales IMO. At that weight its not a sportsbikr and more a very fast sport tourer. I can't see how they could make a bike that heavy be agile enough to race or be classed as a sport bike. It would be taking the class back to the dark ages, pre fire blade (lol) when power mattered more than weight or handling.
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

That's nonsense. How can a bike kicking out more than 1 bhp per kg, with a supercharger and full of electronics be "taking the class back to the dark ages"? You're trying to compare it to litre superbikes. It's not going up against those 1000cc supersports road bikes.

And we already know it can't be raced because it's got a supercharger on it. It is not a race bike and it doesn't profess to be taking on WSBK or MotoGP bikes.

Bleeding kwaka haters :P
User avatar
C00kiemonster
Posts: 8448
Joined: 22 Oct 2013, 07:11
Your Bike: Triumph Street Triple 765 R
Location: Not Froggie Land
Has thanked: 4313 times
Been thanked: 1742 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by C00kiemonster »

All I want is for them to supercharge a 400 in a naked trellis framed bike. I'd then be excited.
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

C00kiemonster wrote:All I want is for them to supercharge a 400 in a naked trellis framed bike. I'd then be excited.
Sounds good I would have one of those.
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

Kwacky wrote:That's nonsense. How can a bike kicking out more than 1 bhp per kg, with a supercharger and full of electronics be "taking the class back to the dark ages"? You're trying to compare it to litre superbikes. It's not going up against those 1000cc supersports road bikes.

And we already know it can't be raced because it's got a supercharger on it. It is not a race bike and it doesn't profess to be taking on WSBK or MotoGP bikes.

Bleeding kwaka haters :P
Because the class is not about power to weight ratios its about performance and mass and weight distribution are key elements of this.

The dark ages before" power with total control" was when powerful engines propelled heavy lumps of metal called sportsbikes but handle more like supertankers so the lighter less powerful sportsbikes which the 92 Blade followed by the 98 R1 started out performed the old heavy lumpers.

Regardless of how powerful the engine is and what the power to weight ratio is a sportsbike needs a light and agile chassis IMO.

I don't actually hate kwaks quite the opposite if I wasnt looking at buying a sports car I would trade the blade for a zx10r yesterday.
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

But you're talking about "the class". Kwak have the zx10r in that class. This bike isn't in that class. You're trying to pigeon hole it when there is nothing out there to compare it to.

This is not a road going race bike. It's a nutter machine, a flexing of kwaks biceps to show what they can do. As I said in a previous post it's probably a benchmark or starting point for other bikes. If they thought this was going up against the RSVR or the S1000rr then it wouldn't be the H2R with a supercharger and a SSSA (which always come in heavier) it would be a brand new ZX10R.
User avatar
Deegee
Posts: 4206
Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 11:20
Your Bike: Daytona 675 & Tiger 900
Location: Côte d'Essex
Has thanked: 1046 times
Been thanked: 967 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Deegee »

Tbh it's probably going to have more in common with the Hayabusa, Blackbird and ZZR1400 class of bike, weight matters in company like that but power is the real pantie dropping statistic.

Mind you that doesn't explain the H2R which is where I suspect Blade is coming from.
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

I know what your saying Kwacky but as they said a sportsbike I was associating it with that rather than any racing class tbh. To me a sportsbike needs to be light and agile, besides its all hypothetical anyway as no official weight figures released as far as I know.

I admire what Kawasaki have done and as you said a while ago the benefits of different divisions of the company working together will be huge bonus to Kawasaki.

Hopefully it is a high tech show case of technology which will be a catalyst for other bikes benefiting from the h2r technology.

Say that I still want a zx10r (raaar)
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

The anniversary ninjas look nice (inlove)
User avatar
Blade
Posts: 18772
Joined: 14 Mar 2014, 18:43
Your Bike: Kawasaki ZX10R
Location: North West
Has thanked: 3134 times
Been thanked: 3767 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Blade »

This is the one I like 8)

Image

With Ohlins Mechatronic TTX36 rear shock, quick shifter and Austin Racing Can and rearsets as the first bling I would buy (y)
User avatar
duke63
Posts: 15500
Joined: 22 Oct 2013, 07:34
Your Bike: Ducati 748/853 & Triumph Street Triple 765RS
Location: Staffordshire
Has thanked: 4177 times
Been thanked: 4132 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by duke63 »

If i was buying a sportsbike, i would always choose lighter weight over more power.

That said buying a sportsbike should ultimately be about how riding the bike makes you feel.
User avatar
Kwacky
Posts: 38601
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 21:52
Your Bike: Brutale 800RR, 1000SX Ninja
Location: Brum
Has thanked: 4325 times
Been thanked: 8366 times

Re: Supercharged Kawasaki H2 ninja

Post by Kwacky »

Blade wrote:This is the one I like 8)


With Ohlins Mechatronic TTX36 rear shock, quick shifter and Austin Racing Can and rearsets as the first bling I would buy (y)
You do know once you go kwak you don't go back, don't you? (giggle)
Post Reply