Brexit thread

[StMarks]

So, bottom line, the UK needs the EU more than the EU needs the UK...is that a fair statement??

Our leaving is expected to be harmful to both sides. "The beginning of the disintegration of the EU", feeding into the hands of the separatist movements in the countries of other member states.

However, there is now the (scarily plausible imho) possibility that Brexit will be seen as the precursor to an unprecedented period of decline, deterioration and social damage that may even serve to undermine the separatist arguments.?

But hey, blue f*****g passports !

[duke63]

So, bottom line, the UK needs the EU more than the EU needs the UK...is that a fair statement??

UK-EU trade makes up approx 45% of UK imports/exports but only 18% of the EU equivalent.

Simple maths tells you who is going to lose the most.

[Kwacky]

Holiday home owners have complained that they are being treated worse than EU citizens, who are able to stay in the UK for up to six months without needing a visa.

Earlier this year, Cabinet Office Minister Penny Mordaunt ruled out seeking an exemption from the EU rule.

In response to a parliamentary question, she wrote: ‘The Government is not seeking to agree specific mobility arrangements for owners of a second home.’ Campaign group 180 Days Visa Free has been calling on the Government to persuade the EU to change the rules.

I wonder how many people with properties in the EU voted for Brexit?

Oh well, at least they knew what they were voting for.

[duke63]

Shit is about to hit the fan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55151333" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The OECD were reporting the other day that the UK economy could be affected by a systemic shock caused by Brexit in the middle of the covid crisis.

[Kwacky]

I see we're still arguing about fish. There's nothing like getting your priorities straight.

[C00kiemonster]

Holiday home owners have complained that they are being treated worse than EU citizens, who are able to stay in the UK for up to six months without needing a visa.

Earlier this year, Cabinet Office Minister Penny Mordaunt ruled out seeking an exemption from the EU rule.

In response to a parliamentary question, she wrote: ‘The Government is not seeking to agree specific mobility arrangements for owners of a second home.’ Campaign group 180 Days Visa Free has been calling on the Government to persuade the EU to change the rules.

I wonder how many people with properties in the EU voted for Brexit?

Oh well, at least they knew what they were voting for.

There are plenty of 'holiday home' owners over here who will have to choose what they want in life. Some of them clearly spend more time over here than in the UK currently, yet dont seem to have any intention of being in the French system, pay French tax, declare their cars in France etc. There are also plenty who drive UK registered cars illegally as they clearly live in France 'under the radar'.

A positive of Brexit (not that there are many) is they will have to pay their way over here or use their homes as proper holiday homes - which is still 180 days a year with no more than 90 days in a stretch - hardly difficult.

I bet a few voted for brexit - morons.

[D6Nutz]

But it's such a massive part of the UK economy at between 0.1% and 0.5% of GDP (depending on which stats you read)

This is a great post on the subject.
https://thefishingdaily.com/latest-news ... professor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My favourite quote of the whole article is this.

“The third obstacle is labour shortages because the sector is quite dependent on overseas skilled crew. More fishing will require more labour but this could be restricted due to migration rules.

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[Kwacky]

No one has said what we're going to do with all that fish, if our fish our going to be more expensive to sell in the EU.

[duke63]

Some farmers were whining on the radio on Monday about the fact they would lose their EU subsidies and the ones proposed by the UK government were different and not as generous.

[D6Nutz]

No one has said what we're going to do with all that fish, if our fish our going to be more expensive to sell in the EU.

You can imagine EU fishing boats setting up a perimeter round the UK and catching all the fish before they enter British waters

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[Kwacky]

Have you seen the Tory proposals?

You're effectively penalised for farming and rewarded for leaving your land to go back to nature.

It's almost as if the Tory's want to reward land owners who can't be arsed to work it.

[Bob T]

I wonder how many people with properties in the EU voted for Brexit?

Oh well, at least they knew what they were voting for.

Some of us were not allowed to vote for or against. Despite spending my whole life in the service of the UK, RAF, civil service etc. Despite paying tax on my RAF pension in the UK, and not being allowed to use any services or benefits that the UK offers to other war disability pensioners, I was not allowed to vote as I live in France.

I accept that it is my choice to live here, but when I moved in 2004 there was freedom of movement. If I could pay tax on my income in France rather than the UK, then I would.

The last laugh was mine in a way. Last March, while visiting the UK, I had a heart attack and ended up having a triple bypass operation in Southampton paid for by the NHS, which I am not entitled to use. Got something back there then. In September I also went to BMW Park Lane and bought a new bike - tax free. Brought it here and paid the French VAT on it. Saved paying the UK nearly £3k in VAT, small victory.

I wish you guys all the best after brexit, something your population voted for, and hope that your trips across the channel will not be too expensive nor difficult.

[Kwacky]

It seems that the reason why we've rushed the vaccine through is to avoid any issues with delivery in the new year.

Nothing like the government having faith in itself.

[duke63]

Idiots in charge.

It will be food shortages next.

[Monty]

It will be food shortages next.

Looking for positives, we won't need as much loo roll.

[Kwacky]

It will be food shortages next.

Looking for positives, we won't need as much loo roll.

I'll be able to start that diet I keep meaning to go on

[D41]

It will be food shortages next.

Looking for positives, we won't need as much loo roll.

Lolz...... I'll bet that's a prized commodity over there in Chez Monty.

[duke63]

It will be food shortages next.

Looking for positives, we won't need as much loo roll.

Probably British made so they will be looking for a new market.

[duke63]

You couldn't make it up.


https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/133450 ... ZwE1v9urZM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Monty]

**** me, we can't even build a car park on time!