Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
If its north of 15k it will have to be very very special as the street RS is 10.3k and that is well spec'd. If they just add Ohlins forks and a fairing then they cant justify more than 12k imo.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Unless it's a proper race engine? Not all of the extras have to be visible.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Even the moto2 bikes aren't proper race engines. There a mildly tuned street triple.
Apparently Triumph offered more power as they said they were making 135bhp reliably with little effort. Dorna declined as they didnt want moto2 bikes getting to close to full factory prototype GP race bike lap times.
Apparently Triumph offered more power as they said they were making 135bhp reliably with little effort. Dorna declined as they didnt want moto2 bikes getting to close to full factory prototype GP race bike lap times.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
My point still stands. If the bike is more than a street triple in a dress then they can afford to call a premium price.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
The Street Triple RS is brilliant as is. It won’t take much to make it exceptional, imho.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Corrected for youduke63 wrote:The Street Triple is brilliant as is. It won’t take much to make it exceptional, imho.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
I don't think someone looking to buy this Daytona Moto-2 is going to be motivated by price/saving money, etc.
They're going to buy this, or a similar priced Ducati, Aprilia...something like that. Something with a bit of exclusivity....which to my way of thinking is one of it's biggest selling points.
They're going to buy this, or a similar priced Ducati, Aprilia...something like that. Something with a bit of exclusivity....which to my way of thinking is one of it's biggest selling points.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Very much so. I can’t wait til I can use all the Revs. I don’t stick strictly to the Rev limit but it pays to be sensible.
It is without doubt the best handling bike I have ever ridden.
It is without doubt the best handling bike I have ever ridden.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
There is not a chance in hell Moto2 bikes are only making 135bhp. You're talking about 150-170bhp to achieve the speeds they're reaching.
A 765RS ST gets over 135bhp with exhaust and tune
A 765RS ST gets over 135bhp with exhaust and tune
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Just what I read Cav and what Triumph officially claim.
Speaking to MCN, Steve Sargent, Triumph’s Chief Product Officer revealed, “We needed to get more power and torque and this was done by increasing the revs and reducing inertia. A standard 765 makes 123 bhp (in the Street Triple RS) and we’re pushing this to 135 bhp and about 80 Nm.”
Speaking to MCN, Steve Sargent, Triumph’s Chief Product Officer revealed, “We needed to get more power and torque and this was done by increasing the revs and reducing inertia. A standard 765 makes 123 bhp (in the Street Triple RS) and we’re pushing this to 135 bhp and about 80 Nm.”
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
I'm not disputing you mate.. I just don't believe Triumph. I imagine they aren't lying about the road bike if that's the claimed road bike power and torque but that definitely isn't Moto2 powerBlade wrote:Just what I read Cav and what Triumph officially claim.
Speaking to MCN, Steve Sargent, Triumph’s Chief Product Officer revealed, “We needed to get more power and torque and this was done by increasing the revs and reducing inertia. A standard 765 makes 123 bhp (in the Street Triple RS) and we’re pushing this to 135 bhp and about 80 Nm.”
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
The old CBR600rr Moto2 engines didn't make much, only about 125bhp. 135-140 bhp from a 765cc triple sounds about right
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
My assumptions about the Moto2 bike come from my knowledge of the current crop of 600s:
Daytona 675 - 130-135bhp with standard mods + tune
R6 & ZX6R - typicaly 125bhp with standard mods + tune
765RS - 135bhp with standard mods + tune
World Supersport ZX6Rs make 145bhp and they're slower than the triples in a straight line which makes me think 150bhp.
The Moto2 bikes are a LOT quicker than the WSS triples so to have 140bhp is just a plain and simple lie. If they have less than 160bhp I would be very surprised but I can understand a conservative 150bhp + mega torque
Daytona 675 - 130-135bhp with standard mods + tune
R6 & ZX6R - typicaly 125bhp with standard mods + tune
765RS - 135bhp with standard mods + tune
World Supersport ZX6Rs make 145bhp and they're slower than the triples in a straight line which makes me think 150bhp.
The Moto2 bikes are a LOT quicker than the WSS triples so to have 140bhp is just a plain and simple lie. If they have less than 160bhp I would be very surprised but I can understand a conservative 150bhp + mega torque
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
what about the weight ? Are moto2 bikes not lighter with better brakes and slick tyres whereas WSS use treaded tyres are considerably heavier and have less effective brakes . The moto2 bikes are quicker through the corner and accelerate better because of their low weight and they also brake later this all plays into their top speed down any given straight .
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Good points Jack I also imagine the straight line speed of the triple could be down to A, more torque than an il4 600cc bike, letting it accelerating harder out of the corner, so therefore reaching a high speed at the end of the street as the advantage is carried on and B, the triple being slimmer and therefore better aerodynamics on a lighter bike.Jack wrote:what about the weight ? Are moto2 bikes not lighter with better brakes and slick tyres whereas WSS use treaded tyres are considerably heavier and have less effective brakes . The moto2 bikes are quicker through the corner and accelerate better because of their low weight and they also brake later this all plays into their top speed down any given straight .
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
In fairness Cav, did start his statement with the word "assumption"
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Just been emailed this by a dealer
NEW DAYTONA Moto2TM 765 LIMITED EDITION
Following overwhelmingly positive customer demand, Triumph Motorcycles confirm the introduction of the ultimate edition of the legendary, multiple Supersport Championship-winning Daytona, which will be officially revealed at a special press event at the GoPro British Grand Prix at Silverstone on Friday 23rd August 2019.
This new limited edition Daytona delivers the closest you can get to a genuine Moto2TM factory ride for the road.
With a limited run of only 765 being built of each model (Europe/Asia & US/Canada), each one individually numbered, Triumph are anticipating strong demand for this truly unique motorcycle.
PLACE YOUR DEPOSIT NOW
Youles Motorcycles are now taking orders for this limited edition bike. Please contact our sales teams at both Blackburn and Manchester to find out details on how to reserve your Daytona.
• New Daytona Moto2TM 765 Limited Edition
• Highest ever power and torque from its new Moto2TM-derived 765cc triple engine
• Highest ever specification and rider technology
• Precision-perfect, championship-winning chassis
• First ever official Moto2TM Dorna Sports.SL licenced motorcycle
• Limited run of individually numbered motorcycles, with only 765 for Europe
and Asia, and 765 for the US and Canada.
The new Daytona Moto2TM 765 Limited Edition will represent both the highest specification of the British racing legend, and a unique partnership with the FIM MotoGPTM World Championship.
Triumph will launch two versions of the eagerly-anticipated new Daytona on 23rd August, one for Europe and Asia, and one for the US and Canada. Both will feature a new Moto2TM derived 765cc triple engine inside a championship-winning sports-focused chassis, delivering the highest power and torque ever from a production 765cc, plus the highest specification of equipment ever, and a limited edition race paint scheme.
Reflecting Triumph’s position as the exclusive engine supplier to the Moto2TM class of the FIM MotoGPTM World Championship, and sharing some of the key developments from the race engine programme, both models will be revealed at a special press event on Friday 23rd August at Silverstone, where full specifications and details will be revealed. Both bikes will also be showcased in a spectacular parade lap over the race weekend, ridden by two former motorcycle world champions.
NEW DAYTONA Moto2TM 765 LIMITED EDITION
Following overwhelmingly positive customer demand, Triumph Motorcycles confirm the introduction of the ultimate edition of the legendary, multiple Supersport Championship-winning Daytona, which will be officially revealed at a special press event at the GoPro British Grand Prix at Silverstone on Friday 23rd August 2019.
This new limited edition Daytona delivers the closest you can get to a genuine Moto2TM factory ride for the road.
With a limited run of only 765 being built of each model (Europe/Asia & US/Canada), each one individually numbered, Triumph are anticipating strong demand for this truly unique motorcycle.
PLACE YOUR DEPOSIT NOW
Youles Motorcycles are now taking orders for this limited edition bike. Please contact our sales teams at both Blackburn and Manchester to find out details on how to reserve your Daytona.
• New Daytona Moto2TM 765 Limited Edition
• Highest ever power and torque from its new Moto2TM-derived 765cc triple engine
• Highest ever specification and rider technology
• Precision-perfect, championship-winning chassis
• First ever official Moto2TM Dorna Sports.SL licenced motorcycle
• Limited run of individually numbered motorcycles, with only 765 for Europe
and Asia, and 765 for the US and Canada.
The new Daytona Moto2TM 765 Limited Edition will represent both the highest specification of the British racing legend, and a unique partnership with the FIM MotoGPTM World Championship.
Triumph will launch two versions of the eagerly-anticipated new Daytona on 23rd August, one for Europe and Asia, and one for the US and Canada. Both will feature a new Moto2TM derived 765cc triple engine inside a championship-winning sports-focused chassis, delivering the highest power and torque ever from a production 765cc, plus the highest specification of equipment ever, and a limited edition race paint scheme.
Reflecting Triumph’s position as the exclusive engine supplier to the Moto2TM class of the FIM MotoGPTM World Championship, and sharing some of the key developments from the race engine programme, both models will be revealed at a special press event on Friday 23rd August at Silverstone, where full specifications and details will be revealed. Both bikes will also be showcased in a spectacular parade lap over the race weekend, ridden by two former motorcycle world champions.
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Re: Triumph 765 Daytona Moto2 Limited Edition
Weight plays a part but unsprung mass is going to be very similar - ultimately acceleration isn't going to be miles apart. I don't know about deceleration though so that is definitely a factor to consider