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Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 13:55
by Stonesie
Cav have a look at anti-pinch pins if you are going through the frame. Im probably going to get one for the superduke to go through the rear axle.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 13:56
by Blade
You have to think like a thief would imo.

If I wanted tools or similar from your workshop i would simply smash the window or glass door. Simple smash and grab job, it might be noisy but I would be long gone before you could respond. Big panes of glass are a major vulnerability and something hard to defend.

If I wanted your bike I would gain entry through the roof. Then use a sledge hammer to take your single brick wall out within minutes and then lift the bike out the back and into a van waiting on the field. All over in less than 4 minutes.

If they want it they will get it basically.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 14:23
by Cav
I have toyed with lining the bricks and blocks with prison mesh to be fair. That would stop the smashing. They'd have to smash and then cut

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 20:01
by Deegee
I remember a lad in the North West UK that had a 916 stolen when they first came out, they knocked down a wall in the side of his brick garage. As Blade said, if they want they’ll have it - even if it means breaking into your house and stealing keys, which is a favourite for high end cars in our part of the world.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 20:27
by Cav
I'll be getting one of those silver safes (or whatever they're called) whenever we end up with a car that has Keyless Go

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 21:55
by D41
Blade is scaring me....he sounds fcuking relentless when he's nicking stuff.

(raaar) (rolf)

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 22:38
by Blade
D41 wrote:Blade is scaring me....he sounds fcuking relentless when he's nicking stuff.

(raaar) (rolf)
If a jobs worth doing, it's worth doing right (happy)

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 23:50
by kiwikrasher
Blade wrote:
D41 wrote:Blade is scaring me....he sounds fcuking relentless when he's nicking stuff.

(raaar) (rolf)
If a jobs worth doing, it's worth doing right (happy)
To be fair he’s only nicking stuff when they won’t give him the discount he feels he deserves (lol)

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 00:44
by D41
"At that price, it's a steal!" etc.

(bandit)

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 08:57
by Rossgo
I vouch for the Y-anchor and also Almax chains.is a worthy investment Cav

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Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 10:17
by duke63
Chains that are too big to be bolt cropped by hand are the way to go. 16mm plus I think.

Angle grinders go through chains in no time but it will make a lot of noise.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 11:08
by Cav
I did watch a video of a guy who put a chain ratchet onto the handles of his f*ck off massive bolt cutters and he tried to cut a 19mm chain.. he dented the jaws of the bolt cutters and only succeeded in bending the handles. That's enough for me.

I know nothing is un-nickable, I just want to increase the time taken for them to get it and the effort required. I'll also keep any tools such as angle grinders, drills etc locked away so I don't give them the tools they need.

Also need a suitably beefy lock and ground anchor. I'm thinking I might fabricate my own ground anchor to be honest and try to sly it through our vacuum hardener at work. I have some 6mm stainless steel plate already - I could weld 2 or 3 pieces together to gain thickness, grind back the welds and avoid corners. I have access to shear-off bolts... harder for a thief to drill out a domed bolt.

It would be ideal to make it so difficult to steal it they end up removing the engine to get the bike out of the chain :D

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 11:11
by Kwacky
That's why I went for 19mm when my bikes were outside. You can't crop it and it weighs a fecking ton.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 12:49
by duke63
Pragmasis chains are some of the best. They even do a 22mm one now.

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Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 19:01
by StMarks
Cav wrote:I did watch a video of a guy who put a chain ratchet onto the handles of his f*ck off massive bolt cutters and he tried to cut a 19mm chain.. he dented the jaws of the bolt cutters and only succeeded in bending the handles. That's enough for me.

I know nothing is un-nickable, I just want to increase the time taken for them to get it and the effort required. I'll also keep any tools such as angle grinders, drills etc locked away so I don't give them the tools they need.
I use heavy chains & padlocks, however am under no illusions that they offer much protection to any but the most casual scroats. A loud alarmed disc lock (my preference is Xena 120db ) takes as much removing, but both options are short lived when the thieves have a cheap rechargeable angle grinder with them.: https://www.toolstation.com/einhell-pow ... MmEALw_wcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fwiw I'd like a dog barking alarm inside your shed, perhaps also linked to a PIR sensor covering the most likely approach route. That and Elsie resistant wire on your perimiter & a few "Beware of the Dogs" signs.?

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 14:35
by Jack
despite having an alarm an immobiliser a disc lock and being literally 3 feet from my front door my bike has been lifted sometime between 1am and 5.30am ........
I have that nasty empty feeling in the pit of my stomach .

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 14:39
by Blade
Sorry to hear this Jack. Hope they catch the b@rstards (swear)

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 15:01
by duke63
That's crap, Jack. Was this early this morning.?

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 15:21
by Kwacky
Jack wrote:despite having an alarm an immobiliser a disc lock and being literally 3 feet from my front door my bike has been lifted sometime between 1am and 5.30am ........
I have that nasty empty feeling in the pit of my stomach .
Oh shit. I'm gutted for you. That's fecking awful.

Re: Bikers and bike security

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 15:40
by C00kiemonster
Jack wrote:despite having an alarm an immobiliser a disc lock and being literally 3 feet from my front door my bike has been lifted sometime between 1am and 5.30am ........
I have that nasty empty feeling in the pit of my stomach .
:(