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Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 21:35
by Monty
Germany's population is in decline

Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 21:37
by D41
Every cloud......

Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 22:10
by StMarks
D41 wrote:World population growth rate is a little over 1% per year....the rate for the UK is half that.
Y'all will adapt just fine.
What is that they say about lies, dam lies & statistics...
Let me paint you a picture, to help you see past flagrant statistics.?

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Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 22:25
by Kwacky
We need a decent bout of world flu

Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 23:03
by Jack
or to find a way to start hostilities between India and China that doesn't end up with us all being vapourised .
not that I have anything against Indians or Chinese I enjoy their culinary expertise , but we have all the recipes now ......

Re: The right to die

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 23:21
by D41
Cool graph. Seems that despite our best efforts otherwise, we are flourishing as a species...!!

Statistics like that are nothing short of inspiring.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 13:13
by Monty
New study out today, rising life expectancy in the UK has stalled since 2010.

On the positive side, it should kill off a few more Tory voters before the next election.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 13:41
by D41
What's it at??....around 78-80 for men?

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 16:54
by duke63
Is it the right to die that is the issue or the fact that it needs assistance to do it in a humane and dignified way?

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 17:13
by D41
I think the two go hand-in-hand don't they??

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 18:00
by D6Nutz
duke63 wrote:Is it the right to die that is the issue or the fact that it needs assistance to do it in a humane and dignified way?
I think there is also a fear of granting an individual the choice only for relatives to disagree, especially after the event. Could you imagine the Jeremy Kyle fueled law suits!

There also has to be an aspect of responsibility for the health care professionals. I'm sure not everyone would be comfortable with intentionally ending another's life.

Its a minefield of a subject with no right or wrong answers, just more questions.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 19:29
by duke63
D41 wrote:I think the two go hand-in-hand don't they??
Yes and No.

If you have died then there is obviously no come back on you but maybe if someone has helped you, then there is a come back on them IYSWIM.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 20:11
by D41
Fair enough. But right now there exists, under the very worst circumstances, the ability for someone's nearest & dearest to have life support turned off.
So why not the person on life-support themselves?? The ability to do so already exists in a person's will/living will.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 20:33
by Kwacky
The legal arguments post death would be the same after a normal death wouldn't they?

The argument is effectively a change in the law to allow assisted suicide.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 06:07
by Frankie
Subject was on the radio yesterday again as well, I agree with it and there should be a law in place to allow. As they say people are going off to other countries an doing this with some dignity.

As someone said yesterday, I want to be treated like an animal.... if a horse breaks a leg they shoot it, if a dog or a cat is so sick beyond help, it Is put down, with the owner by its side for a peaceful exit from this life.
Totally calm and peaceful, but humans are forced to carry on in pain, with no sign of actually living a life they have had, but just existing. I for one do not want to just exist so that others can feel good about themselves.

Yes this could be abused, that's why as Jack said, it needs to be worded very carefully, but it needs to go down this route, in my opinion.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 09:49
by D41
(music) "It's my life-....and I'll do what I wanna, do what I like!" (music)
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-Wendy O. Williams (The Plasmatics).
Self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 10:50
by Kwacky
I fancied her.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 11:29
by D41
Understandably so....a very demure young lady, that one.

Re: The right to die

Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 16:13
by Rossgo
Personally I think the right to die is fine. Kinda annoys me that we have the right to claiming back PPI but not the right to take ourselves out of serious life pain. Mixed up priorities.

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