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Re: Crash protection

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 20:53
by DaytonAndy
Thanks StM. Not what I wanted to hear but I'd rather hear it now than when it's too late!

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 21:32
by StMarks
DaytonAndy wrote:Thanks StM. Not what I wanted to hear but I'd rather hear it now than when it's too late!
You thanked me to early.
I can't find the thread that I (was sure that) recalled reading. (headbang)
(facepalm) So, I suspect that it may simply be down to me becoming old & confused, sorry..

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 21:59
by DaytonAndy
I had a look and saw them mentioned twice. Once was a zero mph crash and the owner was upset they didn't save his fairings (they're obviously not designed to) and the other was a 'my mate crashed and they were rubbish' with no other details. Let me know if the thread you're thinking of turns up. I'm going to strip the bike down at the weekend and see how substantial the Triumph ones are before I get an alternate I think.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 22:13
by Deegee
Despite StM's build up, I've got very similar views to him on crash protection for 675's Andy.

I've found out the expensive way that GB engine covers, spindle bobbins and crash bungs are a must and should be considered disposable in any off at all, also the small tank protectors can save your bike from disappearing up in smoke (certain R6's very prone to this) as the tank is ground away in a shower of sparks which ignite the fuel that comes spraying out after long slide.
As StM points out the OEM triumph clip ones are terrible in a crash and at a minimum you need to remove that screw and ease the clamps fractionally to allow them to turn in a crash - that way you kick them straight and can make the next session. The air tube protector is another must, it stops the lock stops getting pinged off (mot failure/write off) and protects the air tube into the steering head from getting destroyed.
Again the Sharks fin is a sensible mod, as it stops the possibility of losing digits in a chain during a crash - a cheap mod as well as a sensible one.
A really good crash "insurance" is some folding levers, mine are £30 Chinese specials, but they just pop back into place and never need to be replaced because of damage caused by grounding.
If you are in a mood to spend money I'd also think about rear sets, simply because of way the std stuff folds up and is ground away in a slide, I opted for a brand where I could buy all the various components cheaply and always had spares with me on trackdays, and of course rear sets look great away from the track.

All crash protection is geared around what you intend doing with the bike and where, road is mainly engine covers and bar ends, track is everything, most people fall somewhere between those points have to think carefully about what their riding risks and problems are likely to be, before spending their hard earned cash, and things always happen we didn't plan for. Hth, DG.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 00:07
by Monty
I'm just amazed we have so many experts on crashing

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 11:07
by DaytonAndy
Thanks for the info Deegee. Forgive my ignorance but what is this air tube protector? I've seen this:
http://www.sesraceproducts.com/triumph- ... -229-p.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is that the same thing? Do you happen to know if it's easy to put on / take off for road / track duty?

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:03
by Cav
So.. are GB Racing Covers really a must-have 'insurance' to have on a track bike?

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:05
by Kwacky
Any engine cover is a good thing. The casings are really thin.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:24
by DaytonAndy
Cav wrote:So.. are GB Racing Covers really a must-have 'insurance' to have on a track bike?
Yes! Other makes are available but gb racing seem to be the go to make. If you pierce the engine case and a bit of gravel gets in there you're likely to be looking at an engine write off. I am 100% my covers saved my bike from serious damage when I dropped it at Oulton.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:38
by Monty
Dam you, stop spending my money!

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:49
by Kwacky
Monty, are you spending money without first asking Uncle Kwacky what he's got?

Tut.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:54
by Monty
Bu66er yes, and now it's all gone!

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 12:56
by DaytonAndy
Lol. I like to think of it as investing your money! They fetch ok money second hand if/when you change bikes.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 13:36
by Monty
Anyone used (Crashed on) the BikeTEK ones?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STP-Crash-Pro ... Swo0JWOJPm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 13:38
by Kwacky
Is it just the one mounting point using that bolt? If so they don't look very sturdy to me.

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 13:43
by Monty
Yes, but they do look nice

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 13:54
by Kwacky
If by nice you really mean cheap, then yes, they do ;)

I bought the Puig ones but they stick out much further than I like.

Rossgo had the T-rex ones which looked much better IMO

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Rex-Kawasak ... xypNtSfSzQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 14:23
by Monty
They look much nicer, but I quite like the plain look of the cheap ones. Depends on where they are bolted as to how far they stick out of the fairing. Can't find anything online

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 14:47
by Kwacky
Which ones can't you find online?

Re: Crash protection

Posted: 02 Mar 2016, 14:47
by Blade
Monty wrote:Yes, but they do look nice
Chocolate fire guards look nice (giggle)

But also useless. They will just snap off in a low speed spill and probably then do more damage than good.