Tank Slap - Motorcycle Forum

duke63 wrote:Like it or not, this is the future and this is where the R&D is going with the automotive industry.

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Fwiw I see driverless cars as being basically the same thing as a Taxi. -It doesn't take much of a stretch to envisage someone like google incorporating an app' within your mobile, that monitors your activity across all platforms & enables transport to be available for you as required.?

My car satnav already 'predicts' where i might want to go based on the time of day and my travel habits without any input at all from me.

There is no doubt my phone also tracks my every move and travel habits nowadays.

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D41 wrote:That's a bit of a stretch. Passenger vehicles in general, regardless of powerplant, have grown progressively bigger & heavier over the decades, and none have anything like the impact - no pun intended, of commercial vehicles such as buses, HGVs, etc.

It's not a stretch though is it. Overnight, a Golf GTE has gained 200kg over the otherwise identical Golf GTI

The main part of the ev problem is exactly what you have just started.

The GTE is exactly the same car as the GTI, just with a smaller fuel tank and a fecking big battery pack. This is exactly what they've done with our Outlander PHEV. Until there is a mindset change and the actually start designing EV's properly then it's just token gestures (IMO anyway)

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duke63 wrote:My car satnav already 'predicts' where i might want to go based on the time of day and my travel habits without any input at all from me.

There is no doubt my phone also tracks my every move and travel habits nowadays.

EV satnavs will also route you on the most efficient route, taking into consideration hills etc. They can also work out battery usage and reroute you to charging points. Theres some really cool tech out there.

And yes, your phone tracks you. Especially if you use Waze or Google maps.

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D6Nutz wrote:EV satnavs will also route you on the most efficient route, taking into consideration hills etc. They can also work out battery usage and reroute you to charging points

One could foresee them all "constantly communally communicating" with all other EV's, thereby eliminating any requirements for braking avoidance (also therefore all traffic control systems) & incorporating multiple passenger's travel requirements in one vehicle.?

The future's bright,,,, the future's.... "bland".?

duke63 wrote:
There is no doubt my phone also tracks my every move and travel habits nowadays.

Does your phone connect to your car?

If so your car will have a whole host of information about you, including all your contacts and your messages. It's scary how much information a modern car holds.

Kwacky wrote:

duke63 wrote:
There is no doubt my phone also tracks my every move and travel habits nowadays.

Does your phone connect to your car?

If so your car will have a whole host of information about you, including all your contacts and your messages. It's scary how much information a modern car holds.

I’ve disabled recent location services on mine but Jess has everything on. She always comes up to mine on a Wednesday night. And now every Wednesday about 5 mins before she finishes work google maps pops up with directions to my house.

Kwacky wrote:

duke63 wrote:
There is no doubt my phone also tracks my every move and travel habits nowadays.

Does your phone connect to your car?

If so your car will have a whole host of information about you, including all your contacts and your messages. It's scary how much information a modern car holds.

Yes it does. They pretty much all do these days if you want them too.

Bikes are going the same way.

Either way if you have a mobile phone and it is switched on, your phone is still be tracked one way or another.

I would guess switching off location services only stops the phone and apps using your movements for marketing purposes, I bet much of the data is still being extracted by the phone.

This is a pretty viable and already proven fuel production alternative to fossil fuels. It has the ability to not only halt CO2 emissions climbing but also reduce the overall CO2 percentage in the atmosphere.

Compared to electric, it’s uptake would be much easier as it doesn’t require anyone to buy a new type of vehicle.

And it means we can keep our rowdy motorcycles

I don’t think this is a end all solution but a very good part of the CO2 reduction puzzle.

All the equipment used is already tried and tested in other production processes and this actual process has been more than proven in real world scaleable process systems.

[video]https://youtu.be/mG9FZ9zqOdo[/video]

The problem is that burning fossil fuels pollutes the air and eventually the truth about how that is affecting our health and shortening our lives will out.

Its not just about CO2.

duke63 wrote:The problem is that burning fossil fuels pollutes the air and eventually the truth about how that is affecting our health and shortening our lives will out.

Its not just about CO2.

This reclaimed CO2 reprocessed back to HYdrocarbon is an extremely clean fuel chemically. Because it’s a constructed HC and not just refined HC it doesn’t have the same level of contaminants as normal fossil fuels.

This is only one vid, there is plenty more info on this stuff online if you’re interested

duke63 wrote:The problem is that burning fossil fuels pollutes the air and eventually the truth about how that is affecting our health and shortening our lives will out.

Its not just about CO2.

I think the truth about burning fossil fuels carrying health risks came out a long time ago & people just accept it as being part of daily life.

It’s the volume of pollution now that is the issue. Engines are much cleaner but there are so many more of them, it’s achieved nothing in terms of cleaner air.

duke63 wrote:It’s the volume of pollution now that is the issue. Engines are much cleaner but there are so many more of them, it’s achieved nothing in terms of cleaner air.

Nope, sorry to disagree Duke but isn't the (real) issue "too many people" ? -Everything else is basically a symptom of that core issue.

Nope. People don't need cars, computers, mobile phones, plastic products. A population of our current size would not be killing the planet if we were living as we did 2000 or even 500 years ago.

Kwacky wrote:Nope. People don't need cars, computers, mobile phones, plastic products. A population of our current size would not be killing the planet if we were living as we did 2000 or even 500 years ago.

Cant i just keep computers? I love computers

Kwacky wrote:Nope. People don't need cars, computers, mobile phones, plastic products. A population of our current size would not be killing the planet if we were living as we did 2000 or even 500 years ago.

And therein is the problem. It’s the way that a small percentage of the planets inhabitants are living that is causing the problems.

When we have made some parts of the Planet inhabitable where will those people go? Or will they try and forcibly take the parts that are habitable?

We'll adapt to the circumstances at hand, just as we have done in the past. Our ability to do this is one of the main reasons that as a species, we continue to thrive.

duke63 wrote:

Kwacky wrote:Nope. People don't need cars, computers, mobile phones, plastic products. A population of our current size would not be killing the planet if we were living as we did 2000 or even 500 years ago.

And therein is the problem. It’s the way that a small percentage of the planets inhabitants are living that is causing the problems.

When we have made some parts of the Planet inhabitable where will those people go? Or will they try and forcibly take the parts that are habitable?

Not sure it's a small percentage tbh most of the world is developed and all of the developed world has all the things list above.

Heres a question, can one person on here hold their hands up and say they dont have the objects Kwacky listed, car, computer, phone and something made from plastic?????

We talk about the problem being anywhere but our front door, is that honestly true?

I don't have a car or a computer.

Well...I still have a computer stashed away in a cupboard somewhere, but I switched to just using a phone for that sort of stuff a few years ago, and to be honest, I sorta like just having a phone. That, plus my laptop actually dates back to Roman times-ish.