The next prime minister

[duke63]

Whatever happens us ordinary people I’ll be the ones picking up the shitty end of the stick.

[Blade]

And if the Tories do win the next election then they can blame the EU for Brexit if it doesn't work.

So if labour win could they do the same ?

[Kwacky]

Of course.

And the Tories will say it was nothing to do with the EU, it was all labours fault.

[duke63]

Tory party asking for views on what people want from a future Tory Manifesto. Bet they won’t like what I said

[D41]

Go on......

[duke63]

It really is time we introduced the guillotine for these bastards. 75 before you can retire.? IDS is an obnoxious piece of shit.

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[Kwacky]

Regular readers of my political rants will know that I've been banging on about the aged for some time.

They cost money.

A lot of money.

When the pension first came in people were expected to live no more than a handful of years post retirement. Now it's around 20 years. That's 20 years of being paid via a pension, using the NHS, getting discounts etc without paying anything back.

So I am not surprised that they're looking to increase the retirement age.

[duke63]

Most people wont make 75 years old in a few decades time. So they will never retire.

[bb41]

Regular readers of my political rants will know that I've been banging on about the aged for some time.

They cost money.

A lot of money.

When the pension first came in people were expected to live no more than a handful of years post retirement. Now it's around 20 years. That's 20 years of being paid via a pension, using the NHS, getting discounts etc without paying anything back.

So I am not surprised that they're looking to increase the retirement age.

I would like to think most of us won't be relying on a state pension.

I have a very small pension but invested in property as my pension pot , it has enabled me to retire earlier than normal

[D41]

What jobs are people realistically expected to do, and do well, into their mid-'70s..??
There can't be too many.....maybe menial jobs at best, and surely that would have to have some kind of impact at the other end of the age spectrum ??

[bb41]

What jobs are people realistically expected to do, and do well, into their mid-'70s..??
There can't be too many.....maybe menial jobs at best, and surely that would have to have some kind of impact at the other end of the age spectrum ??

I know a lot of the more mature gentlemen and ladies are actively encouraged in places like B and Q here, they work on a P/T basis

[Kwacky]

I'm not condoning it but we have to accept that the retirement age has to rise. A lot of people are working past retirement anyway.

The state does not want to provide for us.

This chart tells you all you need to know and which areas the government wants to attack. Pensions, NHS and Welfare. They're the 3 biggies that they want to reduce.

Compulsory pensions haven't kicked in yet. The NHS is being kicked to its knees as a vehicle to start allowing private healthcare in and Universal Credit is doing it's best to force people out on to the streets or into seeing suicide as the only way out.

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[Kwacky]

There can't be too many.....maybe menial jobs at best, and surely that would have to have some kind of impact at the other end of the age spectrum ??

That's the killer - it's denying kids into those "foot in the door" roles at companies.

[duke63]

Precisely, D41.

I'm sure most of you will be quite shocked how you physically change once you reach your mid-50, let alone mid-60s..

Investing in property is no longer such a viable option as the Govt has made sure 'ordinary' people are disadvantaged for doing so, compared to larger companies.. With the changes in legislation for tenants too, it will get ever harder to make a profit from it.

[duke63]

This is a big part of the real problem.

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[Kwacky]

Did you know that BP received money from the government last year? Yep, they paid no tax and got £134m in tax credits.

[duke63]

There are huge legalized, Government backed, scams going on.

However be a small business or an employee paying tax and NI and you can prepare to be butt-**** by the Treasury.

[Kwacky]

You can see why the right wing press are so keen to stir shit about Corbyn. He wants an end to this tax dodging.

[duke63]

We should all want and end to it. Its killing the Country.

[kiwikrasher]

What jobs are people realistically expected to do, and do well, into their mid-'70s..??
There can't be too many.....maybe menial jobs at best, and surely that would have to have some kind of impact at the other end of the age spectrum ??

I know a lot of the more mature gentlemen and ladies are actively encouraged in places like B and Q here, they work on a P/T basis

Only an isolated case but when I was working as a RAAF contractor, the company was struggling to find qualified tradesman. They hired two old lads in their late 60’s. I was dubious. I was also their supervisor. I need not have worried. They weren’t the tradesman you put on the heavy lifting jobs like control system powerpacks etc, but their knowledge, eye for detail and quality of task was second to none.

And they loved being productive and valued. Great blokes and totally impressed me.