nothing "uses" it, everything coverts it.. the electric bike just converts potential energy into kinetic energyD41 wrote:Yes...but none of those examples produce energy, they merely use it.
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well not really, because you touted Kwacky's examples used energy not produced it (i'm guessing suggesting the scooter does) but the electronics Kwacky mentioned, convert potential energy to heat/light energy. All the items in including the scooter use batteries to store their potential energy, it's just the output that's different, so no semantics, you statement was daft.D41 wrote:Semantics
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Not to mention that mobile phones and laptops use Batteries, batteries which have vastly improved over the years.
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OK....so lemme ask you.....do you see yourself now, or anytime in the next 5 years, switching from a petrol engined bike, to an electric bike, as your first choice of ride??
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Why have we gone from not in this lifetime, to 15 years, to 5 years?
To answer your question, yes. Although a number of parameters would have to be met...
1. Performance
2. Range
3. Availability of fast charging stations
All need to be comparable to a modern bike to stand a chance.
Do I see any of those becoming reality in the next 5 years?
Probably not but as Kwacky already mentioned, and as I said over a month ago, technology is always improving. It's going to be forced to improve even further because in 15 years time we'll be a lot closer to the 2040 deadline for petrol/diesel engines.
More importantly...
4. It needs to not look like it's been designed by a schoolkid who's trying to cross something from Demolition Man with the robots from the Smash adverts.
Make them look like a real bike!
To answer your question, yes. Although a number of parameters would have to be met...
1. Performance
2. Range
3. Availability of fast charging stations
All need to be comparable to a modern bike to stand a chance.
Do I see any of those becoming reality in the next 5 years?
Probably not but as Kwacky already mentioned, and as I said over a month ago, technology is always improving. It's going to be forced to improve even further because in 15 years time we'll be a lot closer to the 2040 deadline for petrol/diesel engines.
More importantly...
4. It needs to not look like it's been designed by a schoolkid who's trying to cross something from Demolition Man with the robots from the Smash adverts.
Make them look like a real bike!
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In 5years, no.
In 10 years? More than maybe. 100 miles would be fine for me for a commuter, as that means I can ride to work and back, with enough juice to spare should I have to do anything other than a direct route. I can charge up each night at home.
250 mile range means you can use the bike for ride outs and touring.
As previously mentioned when we've talked about electric vehicles the best way to deal with distance is to have universal batteries. You pull up to a charging station, swap the dead battery for a charged one, pay your way and off you go.
In 10 years? More than maybe. 100 miles would be fine for me for a commuter, as that means I can ride to work and back, with enough juice to spare should I have to do anything other than a direct route. I can charge up each night at home.
250 mile range means you can use the bike for ride outs and touring.
As previously mentioned when we've talked about electric vehicles the best way to deal with distance is to have universal batteries. You pull up to a charging station, swap the dead battery for a charged one, pay your way and off you go.
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I can see me making the change one day, next 5 years no, but look at bikes like the Energica Egos, The teccnology is getting closer and closer and more within reach of normal people.
30 min quick charge and a range of 93 miles, they are getting there.
http://www.energicamotor.com/energica-e ... otorcycle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
30 min quick charge and a range of 93 miles, they are getting there.
http://www.energicamotor.com/energica-e ... otorcycle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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had them at the bike show on London back in Feb, was a little weird seeing a silent burnout but pretty impressive none the less
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Those are neat - and you can put them in reverseCavetroll87 wrote:I can see me making the change one day, next 5 years no, but look at bikes like the Energica Egos, The teccnology is getting closer and closer and more within reach of normal people.
30 min quick charge and a range of 93 miles, they are getting there.
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what I REALLY like with those is the have kept the control standard, there is a rear brake foot lever and front brake where you would expect, it just doesn't have clutch or gear levers so riding it shouldn't throw you as much as the one I tried the other day
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It has a pillion seat??
.....As if any halfway-decent honey would ever be seen on an electric bike.
"What kind of bike is that??"
"A Fcukin' Dyson!!"
.....As if any halfway-decent honey would ever be seen on an electric bike.
"What kind of bike is that??"
"A Fcukin' Dyson!!"
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Because women don't get thrills from electrical appliances?
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Buuuuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Wouldn't be the first battery powered thing to give a woman a thrill....
Wouldn't be the first battery powered thing to give a woman a thrill....
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I doubt it....I bought the wife a Hoover for Valentine's Day once & she defo didn't seem too thrilled.Kwacky wrote:Because women don't get thrills from electrical appliances?
Talk about ungrateful....
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I'd buy that bike now if the price was reasonable and charging stations were plentiful. I like new tech and I'm open to electric bikes when they mirror performance, range and price of what I ride now. As for being my only bike, not just yet.
As for women and electrical devices, as a fly away worker I can tell you they are more than appreciated if you include the lass in the decision making
As for women and electrical devices, as a fly away worker I can tell you they are more than appreciated if you include the lass in the decision making
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Re: Super Soco Electric Bike/Moped review
I think the track would be a good place for them initially......
Decent time between sessions to stick 'em on charge.
You could never really be "stranded" any worse than any other mechanical.....short "ride of shame" in a truck back to the pit if there was an issue, but you'd feel the bike go "off" in plenty of time to exit the track, etc.
You'd prolly wanna take a spare gas bike with you, but I don't see that as a big deal....I've taken two bikes before, and it's a bit of a hassle doing tech. twice....but other than that it's no big deal.
I'm talking myself rapidly into this idea....
Decent time between sessions to stick 'em on charge.
You could never really be "stranded" any worse than any other mechanical.....short "ride of shame" in a truck back to the pit if there was an issue, but you'd feel the bike go "off" in plenty of time to exit the track, etc.
You'd prolly wanna take a spare gas bike with you, but I don't see that as a big deal....I've taken two bikes before, and it's a bit of a hassle doing tech. twice....but other than that it's no big deal.
I'm talking myself rapidly into this idea....
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Very very very late here but what a great review on an electric bike. You have felt the future
I agree with others I don't see it making much head way over 5 years but in 10 it's possible to see a few more out and about and in 20 we will have to
I'm more concerned about the fueling stations, companies will have to invest a huge amount of money into putting them into their forecourts
Just think if it takes 30 mins to 'quick charge' a vehicle, how many pumps have they got at a petrol station currently, 15 or so that takes 2 minutes to pump fuel into a tank for a full tank, all of a sudden they will have 15 full for 30 minutes. Where do people go? More stations, at car parks at each parking bay. Ok I'm not talking just bikes here I'm talking vehicles, will it lead to more feuling stations taking up our land, our nation will have potentially another 5 million people here in 20 years time and our parking spaces are getting smaller and cars are getting bigger right now.
What's the answer?
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I agree with others I don't see it making much head way over 5 years but in 10 it's possible to see a few more out and about and in 20 we will have to
I'm more concerned about the fueling stations, companies will have to invest a huge amount of money into putting them into their forecourts
Just think if it takes 30 mins to 'quick charge' a vehicle, how many pumps have they got at a petrol station currently, 15 or so that takes 2 minutes to pump fuel into a tank for a full tank, all of a sudden they will have 15 full for 30 minutes. Where do people go? More stations, at car parks at each parking bay. Ok I'm not talking just bikes here I'm talking vehicles, will it lead to more feuling stations taking up our land, our nation will have potentially another 5 million people here in 20 years time and our parking spaces are getting smaller and cars are getting bigger right now.
What's the answer?
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