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That was from the Minnesota Department of Health, in conjunction with the CDC, if I'm reading it correctly.

It is Minnesota though, so practically almost Canada, ehh?
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**** the statistics, and **** the government advice, the overriding message I'm getting from my friends and family working on the front line in the NHS is to stay at home no matter how old you are.

The government isn't your friend and right now you're just a number.
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D41 wrote:...It is Minnesota though, so practically almost Canada, ehh?
Bit of a slur isn't it.?
Main difference being Minnesota is mainly populated by Americans ;)
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It's their only saving grace.
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Kwacky wrote:So what you're saying is that only 2000 people have died from Covid 19?
thats what the figures seem to be saying , only 2162 of the dead have tested positive .
I don't know if the tests are faulty or if the remaining deaths were caused by something else or a variety of something else's .
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They're not testing them.
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That doesn't make sense . How do we know that they died of the virus if they were not tested ?
So people are being admitted to hospital during a pandemic and not being tested for the cause of the pandemic ?
That seems ludicrous to me .
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On face value, the ONS data is the most accurate, however, "if a Doctor suspects Covid" they can classify the death as Covid. Also, if it's mentioned I would have to assume that gets counted under the 'covid death' category as that last time I checked ONS it doesn't have a specific category for "deaths with covid mentioned".

My view is that I will continue to distance from 2m and keep my hygiene as good as possible. I don't want to be asymptomatic and unwittingly give it to people and I don't want to contract it either.

While I'm talking about it, old people are so fecking ignorant, rude and appalling! There's your typical chavvy youth that you expect to not give a crap but even then they will typically apologise if you say something, but old people! They brush past you, you can feel their breath on you, they stand directly behind you while you're reaching a bottom shelf and you inevitably stand on them when you get back up and they are so rude when you say anything. F#CK OFF BARBARA!!!
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Cav wrote:.......While I'm talking about it, old people are so fecking ignorant, rude and appalling!....!
Fwiw I've been staggered by the attitude of a good number of "more senior" people during this pandemic.

Obviously there are those who have been terrified by a combination of the media coverage etc.. to the point that it has developed into mental health issues that will likely remain with them long after this episode has ended, probably for their remaining time imho.

However there are also a good number I have come across who are utterly dismissive of the recommendations, despite the fact that it is they who would be most likely to be seriously affected if they were to become infected. Belligerent unreasonable and stubborn, they are very challenging to deal with. All successful outcomes achieved I feel are attained very much "against their will" (and unlikely to change their behaviour in the medium to longer term).
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They probably believe that if they “breathe hard” everything will be ok
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Monty wrote:They probably believe that if they “breathe hard” everything will be ok
They voted for the almighty BOJO the clown. He will protect everybody and the virus will just leave the UK because he comes up with a catch phrase.

The sense of self entitlement in the older generations now is quite staggering. They won, they are right, end of.

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It appears that a lot of the older generation have simply carried on as normal. I noticed that at the start of lockdown that the majority of the cars on the roads were being driven by OAPs.
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Younger people tend to adapt more readily...older folk are more set in their ways - their greater experience works against them, I think.
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StMarks wrote: However there are also a good number I have come across who are utterly dismissive of the recommendations, despite the fact that it is they who would be most likely to be seriously affected if they were to become infected. Belligerent unreasonable and stubborn, they are very challenging to deal with. All successful outcomes achieved I feel are attained very much "against their will" (and unlikely to change their behaviour in the medium to longer term).
I didn't realise we'd met ....
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And it finally hits home...
Fire Dept. & Paramedics just leaving the house right now with the house manager (I'm in a sober living house).
Male, 60+ years, several underlying health conditions including diabetes, displaying all the fun Covid-19 symptoms. Collapsed this morning...and to be honest it's lucky I was there to see him do it - pure chance....otherwise he'd probably still be laid out as he doesn't have the strength to raise his voice right now, much less his own body-weight.
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Jack wrote:....I didn't realise we'd met ....
(wait) Fwiw, I believe we have actually mate.
(Although my post didn't relate to that much earlier occasion, so any correlation is entirely coincidental (giggle) )
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Cadwell ?
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Jack wrote:Cadwell ?
Nope, not Cadwell, as I recall mate
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and now I feel guilty for not remembering .....
was it BSB finals at Oulton 2011 ?
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