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So...for UK men, that would equate to a whopping 4 years-ish of retirement & all-around decrepitude..? That's lacking in appeal, to be honest.
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Kwacky wrote:Who pays for the care?

The government has no money in the pot. That's why they're constantly changing the pension and retirement laws. The plan is to push retirement up to 75.
:D 75.... What a piss take.

I'll have been retired 36 years by then 8) (If i make it that far (blush) )
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D41 wrote:So...for UK men, that would equate to a whopping 4 years-ish of retirement & all-around decrepitude..? That's lacking in appeal, to be honest.
Which is what it used to be.

Old people are expensive. They're the real burden on the state.
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They are. I read something years ago re: the last 10 days of life incur 90% of a person's lifetime medical costs--------that figure might be off a bit, but either way the discrepancy was huge.
But then what cost do you place on something like that??
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Jack wrote:
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Jack wrote:We are an ageing society. We cant all be retired and contributing nothing

Do the people we import not age then ?
As far as I can see this is just a delay in dealing with the actual problem as we cannot just keep importing younger people , we will eventually run out of resources to cope with the numbers .
Well if the Government did THEIR job properly then they would only be entitled as far as they have contributed. That isn’t the fault of the EU.
Are you suggesting that when retired people have taken out as much as they have paid in that we leave them to fend for themselves ?
Do we not have a duty of care for people who have paid in what they were told would last them for their retirement regardless of how long that may be ?
Regardless of how much people put in or take out or their ethnicity I still don't get how immigration solves the problem of an ageing population long term , even if immigrants have more children sooner or later economic factors kick in and their birthrate drops and even if it remains steady we will eventually be in the same situation as these people age and there will just be more of us meaning it is a bigger problem .

Surely the solution would be to make better provision for the care of the elderly that wasn't reliant upon the younger generations .
Because you need working people to earn the Country income to pay for that care.

From what i see, too many British people want lots of money for doing not a lot. They see so much shite on TV and in social media that seems to say that there is lots of money out there for doing Sweet FA and they are entitled.

That's why there are so few British doctors these days, its seen as too much like hard work by so many Brits.
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duke63 wrote: Because you need working people to earn the Country income to pay for that care.

From what i see, too many British people want lots of money for doing not a lot. They see so much shite on TV and in social media that seems to say that there is lots of money out there for doing Sweet FA and they are entitled.

That's why there are so few British doctors these days, its seen as too much like hard work by so many Brits.
I don't think people are staying away from medicine because they're work-shy....becoming a doctor is something that is vocational, they do it because they want to work. It's also something that requires a high standard of training/skill. You make it sound like a job in construction.
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Thank the lord Rory is out o/
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We've not had problems in the past attracting people into the medical profession.

We do now. The NHS is fast becoming poisonous to work in
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Do you feel they simply go elsewhere/overseas where the opportunities are better?
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That's what the evidence suggests. They qualify here then leave.
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bb41 wrote:Thank the lord Rory is out o/
Johnson loaned votes to make sure Stewart didn't survive.

I'm not sure why, Johnson looks like he's home and dry.
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Politics is poisonous too. I don't think I will ever vote Tory again.
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Kwacky wrote:
bb41 wrote:Thank the lord Rory is out o/
Johnson loaned votes to make sure Stewart didn't survive.

I'm not sure why, Johnson looks like he's home and dry.
Because his team were well aware that Rory was his only real competition.? - The others are all watered down versions of the same mandate as Boris, whereas Rory has demonstrated that he is prepared to speak unpaletable truths for the sake of integrity, & make tough decisions based on necessity.

When it comes down to the last two, and a "one on one" debate, Boris would have been exposed as an evasive waffler against Mr Stewart. However against any of the others he can be seen as a more hardline version of the same message.
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WTF is "loaning votes"?

That just sounds like vote rigging to me?

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I think Gove will give him a run for his money at the death.

But I am past caring. It's time to get out on the streets and riot. I learned something from the gilet jaune last week.
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duke63 wrote:I think Gove will give him a run for his money at the death.

But I am past caring. It's time to get out on the streets and riot. I learned something from the gilet jaune last week.
My daughter got caught up in that .. I was scared to death at the time ..horrid being a parent and not knowing what has happened to your child
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duke63 wrote:Politics is poisonous too. I don't think I will ever vote Tory again.
That doesn't make any sense.....you're just limiting your options/opportunities if you take that approach.
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**** them. I don't really see much choice anyway. You can choose dumb or dumber.
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(rolf)

That's s fair point. I stand corrected.
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So who do you think will face Johnson in the final round? I'm going for Gove.
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