Mandatory speed limiters to all new vehicles within 3 years

[Frankie]

Sorry I am tired and lazy and not read all the posts in detail, As I have spent most of the afternoon sitting on the M25 due to what I can only assume was a very serious incident, as sections were shut completely, but my two pence on this is, what a load of rubbish they spout about speed, speed speed..... I have had more people crossing lanes and lines on the roads in the past 12 month than in my whole time driving. moving in the same direction and worse still coming towards me.

The state of peoples awareness, consideration, ability to actually drive a car is atrocious...THIS IS THE THE FACTOR, not the speed of of the vehicle, people driving big ol buses that they cant even see over the sodding dashboard are the problem. Nobody seems to give a toss about the highway code. I am not being a hypocrite (much) I am not perfect and to be fair I am a faster type of driver, but I stay in my lanes, abide by the markings on the road... the amount of people who dont beggars believe. I am mainly referring to my day to day car driving....but get two of these twats doing what they do, rather than someone like me who knows what is coming and makes space or whatever to avoid, THATS where these problems come from, doing 20 mile an hour to 70 mile an hour makes no odds..... we are just becoming a nation of shit, selfish drivers, it makes me sad, and scared is not really the right word, but am feeling a lot less safe driving around the country than i ever did. Making the speed mandatory will not stop any of this, they have their heads up their arse if they think it will.

Just like smart motorways, what a load of crap that it..... trying to watch emergency services trying to get past 4 lanes of traffic and no hard shoulder its a crime..... well I really dont see anything smart about them at all. Signs that nobody actually adheres to..... what is the point... so called professional drivers who seem to think there lane is the one in the middle is theirs and they are not going to move full stop.... man I really should be taking a chill pill at this time of night but this subject makes me so bloody angry. I have lost most of the day to do any constructive work because I am been in another jam, so have to do it all at night when I should be resting.... hence the pent up rage and rant LOL...
Yesterday evening I got home to Berkshire from Devon quicker than I did from Bishops Stortford!!! Unreal

I will stop now, cut the cords on this and go and meditate.... namaste lol

[T.C.]

I disagree.

Speeding fines don't cover the costs of accidents on the road, so that's not a concern.

The speeding limiter can be overridden when needed. So I don't think we'll see more accidents. The limiter won't be the only piece of tech in the cars. It'll be alongside a host of other driver aids which will include distance measurement and braking assistance.

Most congestion on A roads and motorways is caused by variations in speed. How often has there been very slow or standstill traffic on a motorway for no obvious cause? We've all seen the concertina effect of people driving too close and someone braking in front. The car behind panic brakes and you get the follow on effect. If vehicles are limited to the speed limit of the road then congestion will be reduced as more vehicles will be travelling at the same speed limit.

Just because a car has a speed limiter on it does not mean that the car will be engineered to only reach 70mph so I don't believe that we'll see them thrashed within an inch of their life.

So I think it's a step in the right direction towards driverless cars.

On the first point, I agree in so much that the cost of a fatal crash is not covered by speeding fines, but then in my 40+ years of traffic law enforcement and investigation, that has always been the case.

Speeding fines has always been considered a source of secondary income which is why with the introductionof speed cameras so many were placed in areas where the pickings were easy and totally in contravention of the original directives.

I have seen the proposals for the technology and it is intended that the limiy will be set at a few MPH above the maximum permissable in the UK, namely at arounmd 77 - 78 for a 70 MPH motorway.

Whilst I have also read that the technology can be over ridden, I have seen other evidence that contradicts this suggestion, but either way, it will crashes will still occur and it will open up a can of worms for drivers to become complacent and blame the technology.

Lets just say that having seen what is planned, it worries me, and I having spoken to fellow experts in the field which includes the legal profession, many of us have similar concerns.

Time will tell. Either way, it is a guaranteed vote loser for whover is in power on its introduction.

[Blade]

Driving standards are low now in general. If this tech allows drivers to be over reliant on it, then worryingly driving standards could drop further.

[Kwacky]

It's all a push towards driverless cars. That's where the government wants us to be.

[D41]

........And sooner or later that's where we're going to end up. A car will just be another appliance rather than a passion....at least to enthusiasts. A taxicab, only without some semi-literate fool behind the wheel, and all the sex-appeal of a microwave oven. You'll be able to have a cup of coffee on the way to the office, do paperwork, etc.

Progress has never looked so bland.

[Kwacky]

There's also a massive push to get office workers to work from home. It cuts overheads down for a start. We're going paperless in the next 2 years and already we've started to cut down on the number of desks available. By next year we won't have our own desks, it'll be first come first served.

[D41]

Do you find that you're more, or less productive when working from home...couldn't give a toss, etc??

[Jack]

once all the tech is in place they will be able to monitor exactly where you are and your speed and the time of day and how much traffic is on the road etc etc , then they will privatise all the roads and you'll be charged per mile at variable rates depending on the time of day how busy the road is etc etc .

[Kwacky]

Do you find that you're more, or less productive when working from home...couldn't give a toss, etc??

Depends what mood I'm in. I tend to start work early, do a couple of hours then start finding other things to do around the house.

My biggest issue is eating. I'm forever snacking when I'm alone in the house.

[Blade]

They want to put speed limiters and black box recorders on vehicles, make you register to watch porn and keep telling you alcohol is not good for you.

Why don't they just come round here and shoot me and be done with it

[Kwacky]

It's ace, isn't it? Mrs May is very much an old fashioned prudish conservative. She doesn't like much and she certainly isn't a fan of people enjoying themselves.

[Blade]

She needs to fook off now

[D41]

It's ace, isn't it? Mrs May is very much an old fashioned prudish conservative. She doesn't like much and she certainly isn't a fan of people enjoying themselves.

She comes off like a Mother Superior....least from my limited experience of her on the news.
It's like she's living in the '60s, likes a good jumble-sale, and thinks a Cortina Mk-1 is still "cutting-edge" technology.