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You can't see the forum unless you're a member. This has just been posted by there:-

As the news is leaking out through the trade now, it's time to tell you what we're up to with PB.

The short version: it's being merged in to Practical Sportsbikes, as a PB-headed dedicated section covering pretty much the same feature material we do now (tests, launches, interviews, trips, specials, race bikes) without the window dressing of letters, news etc. PS will continue covering what it always has, with a mild refresh and update which was due anyay. I'll be in charge of the joint mag, and existing contributors/staff will be retained. It's close to business as usual, but one, larger product will come out every month instead of two.

The longer explanation
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We're doing it because we don't want PB to wither and die like Superbike did, and Fast Bikes has to all intents and purposes. PB is in no danger of doing that just yet, but rather than wait for it to get further squeezed by sales, or adverts, or overheads, we're taking action. Fast Bikes is a mess, and the sales figures they haven't been prepared to have independently audited are tiny. They can pretty much only cover stuff that's paid for by someone else - they couldn't dream of sending contributors on road trips, track testing every month, and any of the other stuff PB sticks our neck out to do. It's terrible, and no way to produce a magazine. I'm not smug or superior about this: it's a shame we don't have a strong rival to keep us on our toes and maintain interest in sportsbikes. We don't want PB to have to reach that stage. We still put our wallet and back in to stuff you can't read or watch online, and we'd like it to stay that way.

So we're distilling what we do - keeping the core PB stuff (which we quizzed you lot on a month or so back) and dropping the other stuff that's not essential, and moving it in to PS.

Practical Sportsbikes is the right home for PB - it's all ex-PB staffers anyway, and when you look at the people in PS/PB/on this forum, there's a lot of crossover. People with new bikes who like old ones, people with old ones curious about new ones, and people who own both. It's also 100 issues old now, and due to expand the time period it covers - including a chunk of PB lets it do that, without cutting coverage of the stuff it always has. It'll be one larger, comprehensive magazine for people who own and appreciate sportsbikes in the wider sense, rather than two specialising in a niche. It'll also cost the same money - so you'll be getting a larger, more varied mag for your money

It's not far away from how PB came about, when it morphed from Motorcycle Mechanics in to the mag you know now in 1985, to reflect a changing bike market. The world PB reflected (and created to a great extent) has changed a lot in nearly 34 years, so it's time for the mag to change with it.

When, what happens to my sub etc

There are two more issues of PB and PS as a standalone before the tie-up: January and February 2019. Issue 101/March 2019 Practical Sportsbikes will then incorporate PB. If you're a subscriber (through official Bauer/Great Magazines channels), you'll be contacted soon about the terms of this.

The forum's future

Business as usual, for the moment. There are no plans to close it, or change its name, or do anything for that matter. I still see it as a valuable part of the PB world, so it's being left alone. But the hosting etc does come out of PB's budget: that's all well and good whilst it continues to give something back to active magazine readers (a decent number of you, I feel), and also funnel useful stuff back in to the mag - bikes, stories, a steer on readers and the like. A mag forum is an unusual thing these days and most seem to have disappeared, but I think it still has its place alongside social media so I'd like to see it continue.

But... if it's no longer populated by readers and isn't helping PB in its new guise, it simply won't be worth diverting money from the mag, and Kar's (much appreciated) time and efforts running it. As much sentiment as there is around this place as well as the mag, cold business facts will be the decider: PB (and PS) pays the mortgages of and feeds a number of good people, and I'll put them first. If the forum became a drain rather than being a positive asset, closing it would be the only sensible thing to do. I genuinely hope it doesn't come to that: in an ideal world you'll enjoy the new-format mag and pbmagforum will play a part in that in its future.

A final note...

Myself, Johnny and the PS team have put a lot of planning work in already, with plenty more to do before it goes live next year. Hand on heart, we're excited by this: it's a chance to do something new, different and exciting for us. Both mags have a subtly different skillset, and putting those in one place gives us a great chance to do more - there hasn't been a team with a breadth of experience and knowledge bigger than this for many years (and certainly not anywhere now). Each mag brings stuff to the table that will benefit the other.

We're going to be putting our back in to doing right by both mags - PB means a lot to all of us, and PS is also dear to those of us who've worked on it for similar reasons, so we'll be doing our damnedest to do right by both. I understand there'll be a lot of skepticism regarding that - we're prepared for it, but we think the merged magazine will work for a lot of you, give PB a future that isn't the publishing equivalent of dying piss-stained and senile in a chair and helps move PS onwards and upwards too. We think you'll enjoy it: give it a go and give us some feedback when the first few mags are out.

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Sounds well managed to me.

I might buy a subscription to the new mag to help.
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Makes sense.

When was the last time anyone on here bought a magazine?? The internet has made that whole aspect of the media more bother than it is worth.
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I subscribe to PB and I think Duke and Blade do as well.
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Always enjoyed PB mag from day one.

It’s a take on bikes as you and I would see them rather than a person in the pocket of the manufacturers might see it. But sports Bikes are no longer the core market of motorcycling and things change. hopefully nothing will be lost in the transition.
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D41 wrote:....When was the last time anyone on here bought a magazine?? .......
PB this April.! ;)
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D41 wrote:Makes sense.

When was the last time anyone on here bought a magazine?? The internet has made that whole aspect of the media more bother than it is worth.
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I'm genuinely surprised ....any mags about biking are getting harder & harder to find these days.
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On a (ever so slightly) related subject. Do porn mag's exist still.?
Back in the 70's I remember them being popular, but I'm guessing that the internet will have eliminated their market.
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Yes, they do. My local newsagent is a traditional corner shop that sells tins of beans, shoe polish, stationary, fags, greeting cards and top shelf mags. I noticed Club was still going. I might get one for old times sake :D
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Yes, they still exist. I "might" have one in one of the bedroom drawers.

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How we changed from bikes to porn mags lol!! I remember going into corner ships with my mates and grabbing porn mags and taking a good kook thriugh whilst in the shop the good old days!

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Jist a quick question. Tjis mentions Fast Bikes (the mag I do really like and relate to) are they really struggling? Anyone know anymore about that?

I don't tend to buy it that often as its pretty expensive but i do when I go on holidays or at bike shows etc. Always loved their writing style, group of lads taking the piss out of each other and talk about bikes, trips away etc
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Rossgo wrote:How we changed from bikes to porn mags lol!! I remember going into corner ships with my mates and grabbing porn mags and taking a good kook thriugh whilst in the shop Image the good old days!

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Fast Bikes isn't doing well I'm afraid
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Ill be honest I literally cancelled my sub to Fast Bikes last night, since Fagan and Beej left I felt the mag has really gone down hill (only my opinion) I dunno if Ill bother with anything else, I would have gone to PB but thast not an option now, ill see.
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Cavetroll87 wrote:
Rossgo wrote:How we changed from bikes to porn mags lol!! I remember going into corner ships with my mates and grabbing porn mags and taking a good kook thriugh whilst in the shop Image the good old days!

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Didn't know they were struggling to be honest. I really liked them.



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Cavetroll87 wrote:Ill be honest I literally cancelled my sub to Fast Bikes last night, since Fagan and Beej left I felt the mag has really gone down hill (only my opinion) I dunno if Ill bother with anything else, I would have gone to PB but thast not an option now, ill see.
I know Fagan left he's gone to 44teeth with his buddy (think they are doing well too) but when did Beej leave? He was the only one updating the YouTube channel and I do enjoy it when he adds his videos?

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