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Audi e-tron - the future

Postby duke63 » 23 Sep 2018, 18:18

Audi have just announced their first all electric car. Fully charges to 300 mile range in 50 minutes using a 150kw charger.

I wonder how much longer petrol cars will be sold? My guess is that in ten to 15years you won't be able to buy a new one. Well ahead of the agreed 2040 deadline.


https://beta.audi.co.uk/electric-car.ht ... gKEr_D_BwE
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby D6Nutz » 23 Sep 2018, 18:34

There's no doubting it, electric is coming. If you take a walk round the streets of London there are so many all electric and hybrid cars now, all sorts of manufacturers as well.

Even starting to see a few of the new hybrid black cabs as well.

I'm very happy with our outlander hybrid. As a daily potter about car its perfect. Doesn't do too bad a job of hauling round the van either.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby StMarks » 23 Sep 2018, 18:57

It's the storage that seems to me to be the biggest problem.?

If someone can develop a way to store the electricity that doesn't:

Have a huge Carbon Footprint to produce.
Have a limited lifespan.
Require the sourcing of very limited mineral resources.

Then things will take a real leap imho.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Stonesie » 23 Sep 2018, 19:19

I've been browsing electric cars and the one that I would buy would be the Kia Nero, 300 miles range for about £30K, loaded with toys and a 7 year warranty. I need a lottery win to afford it though.

The technology is really picking up now so who knows what will be available in the next 10 years.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby D41 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:22

That car is £70,000!!!!

We won't switch 'en masse' until we have to, and at that price why would we??

The Greenpeace crowd will be thrilled with it, and will probably throw a big tofu & almond-milk party when it comes out.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby duke63 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:33

I have two friends with electric cars at each end of the spectrum. One has a Tesla and the other a Renault Zoe.

If all your miles are short and local the Zoe makes a huge amount of sense. The one my mate bought was two years old and 7k miles and he paid £6200 for it. It does about 90 miles on a charge but the latest one does 150 miles and he does have the option to change the battery pack to the newer version. They are £22k new. My guess is that in a few years it may be worth more than he paid for it as electric cars become the norm for commuting.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby D41 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:45

Oh sure.....my opinion is totally skewed & I know it.....I've never worked a job that has a regular commute. Different place every day....and always construction, where the shops & gas stations are the last thing to be built.....long after I'm gone.

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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby duke63 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:46

Did you know that on average a London taxi only travels 120miles per day?
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Kwacky » 23 Sep 2018, 19:47

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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby D41 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:49

.....Cunningly fashioned from purest Green..
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Rossgo » 28 Sep 2018, 10:04

They will take off but not yet. We need the tech to be affordable for the masses £70k isn't affordable. It's the masses that put in the money. As long as they dont ruin bikes until I'm dead I'm all for it!

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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Blade » 28 Sep 2018, 13:07

My mate is a director at Audi dealership. Next week he is off to Munich to view this car.

He told me Audi having been holding back for years as to gain returns on previous technology investment before jumping into the electric car market seriously.

He also predicts when, Audi, BMW, Mercedes etc..... do make the shift to electric, Tesla will be dead in the water. The big German brands are established with image, pedigree and status and when they decide to launch serious electric cars they will dominate the market as established leaders in the premium sector.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby duke63 » 10 Oct 2018, 10:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786690

I must confess, the day when i no longer have to own a car will be a good one. Sounds like it might not be very far away.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Kwacky » 10 Oct 2018, 10:17

I think we need to convince the over 40s more than anyone else that they really do not need to be in control of their cars. Do that and you'll win the war for driverless cars.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby D41 » 10 Oct 2018, 10:26

There's a lot of "What-if's?" there.

But that's an old codger talking...the young generation will embrace this stuff without a second thought (while I, on the other hand, will be eating all my meals through a straw).
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby C00kiemonster » 10 Oct 2018, 11:26

I like driving - i always have.

Autonomous cars are a good idea, however its another thing that the populous doesn't have to learn or think about doing. Not necessarily a good thing for average IQ across the population, it's bad enough people don't seem to be able to do much for themselves these days anyway.

Give it a few years and we will all be able to sit and stare at phones all day instead of most of the day. |(

May all sound grumpy but effort and activities that are challenging are good for us.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Kwacky » 10 Oct 2018, 12:00

In the past parents have moaned about kids spending too much time listening to music, or watching too much TV, or spending too long with their games consoles or doing too much on their computers. Now it's phones.

Going on what I see on our roads every day there isn't much evidence of intelligence going on with car drivers. People are too easily distracted. You can't change people from struggling with concentration. I've got enough work to prove that.

Each car crash involving an automated car will be reported. People will be outraged and want them banned. But it's far safer than human controlled vehicles.
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Cav » 10 Oct 2018, 12:40

The problem with electric cars is the source of the energy. Nothing is green/blue while the electricity for these clean cars is filthy dirty... same for the production of the batteries.

I'll stick to my non-DPF diesel car doing 55-65mpg with 170,000 miles on it for now. Much less polluting than any current modern car
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby C00kiemonster » 10 Oct 2018, 12:47

Kwacky wrote:In the past parents have moaned about kids spending too much time listening to music, or watching too much TV, or spending too long with their games consoles or doing too much on their computers. Now it's phones.

Going on what I see on our roads every day there isn't much evidence of intelligence going on with car drivers. People are too easily distracted. You can't change people from struggling with concentration. I've got enough work to prove that.

Each car crash involving an automated car will be reported. People will be outraged and want them banned. But it's far safer than human controlled vehicles.


Absolutely true - my point wasn't hinged on it being phones (there will always be distractions) - it's the lack of challenge in life for many. Click your fingers and you can have anything these days - food delivered in 20 minutes, products - anything. You don't need to move. In fact you don't need to work as hard to earn the money to get them - credit has seen to that.

Convenience and technology has negated the need for intelligence and concentration. So it's lacking these days. For many, life is too easy and unchallenging - more worried about instagram and facebook than driving in a straight line |(

Maybe i've moved away from the point of automated vehicles but it's symptomatic of society. Where does it end?
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Re: Audi e-tron - the future

Postby Kwacky » 10 Oct 2018, 12:51

Whilst the production of the electricity may not be green it does cut down on pollution because it's not dumping more crap into the air. Most cars are driven for very short journeys in crowded areas.

I dread to think what my lungs look like from breathing in car fumes commuting to work.
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