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The price of privatising education

Postby duke63 » 10 Sep 2018, 19:31

I was having a look through the accounts of Bright Tribe earlier on Companies house.

I fail to see how letting these companies run schools is improving the education for youngsters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-4547218
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby D41 » 10 Sep 2018, 20:06

Cool link.

Do you have one that works?? :D
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby duke63 » 10 Sep 2018, 22:29

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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Kwacky » 10 Sep 2018, 22:46

Private companies will become more involved in education as the government looks to reduce its outgoings
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby StMarks » 11 Sep 2018, 08:03

I bet there won't be an criminal convictions as a result of the journalist's investigations.
A far better way therefore, to steal £500,000, than robbing a bank.?

" Bright Tribe was set up by businessman Michael Dwan, who made his reported £114 million fortune from private contracts in the NHS. "
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 11 Sep 2018, 17:48

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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Kwacky » 11 Sep 2018, 17:51

Scary shit
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby D41 » 11 Sep 2018, 18:35

I Googled Michael Dwan.

First result I got was.....

"A money laundering douchebag with the same name as me was in the news today.

How's your Monday going?"

(rolf)
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby duke63 » 11 Sep 2018, 19:08

Monty wrote:https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2018/09/11/a-panorama-expose-about-corruption-in-schools-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/


One of my reason for giving up being a school governor was because it didn't take an expert to foresee the problems ahead and as it was a voluntary appointment with no limit to the responsibility you had to take on, i decided someone else could take the mantle.

I did learn a hell of a lot on those years though as the head of the school was quite brilliant. Not only did he run the school as a very effective place of learning but he did it within budget. He was worth double the salary he was being paid.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 12 Sep 2018, 10:10

I don't have a problem with authorities forcing efficiency far from it, but you can't run schools for profit.

The same is true for railways, gas, electricity, water etc etc. They are ours, they belong to us, and any profit made should go into either improving or subsidising them.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby StMarks » 12 Sep 2018, 19:00

Monty wrote:....The same is true for railways, gas, electricity, water etc etc. They are ours, they belong to us, and any profit made should go into either improving or subsidising them.

Very true IMHO mate.
However ( whilst we both resent the fact) publicly owned institutions inevitably seem to stagnate, become self-serving & bloated with jobsworths.?
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Kwacky » 12 Sep 2018, 19:32

That sounds just like the Houses of Parliament.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby D41 » 12 Sep 2018, 20:01

Monty wrote:I don't have a problem with authorities forcing efficiency far from it, but you can't run schools for profit.

The same is true for railways, gas, electricity, water etc etc. They are ours, they belong to us, and any profit made should go into either improving or subsidising them.


Well, plenty of schools are run for profit & they function just fine.

How do the railways, etc. "belong to us"??

You mean they belong to the govt.??
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 12 Sep 2018, 20:54

StMarks wrote:
Monty wrote:....The same is true for railways, gas, electricity, water etc etc. They are ours, they belong to us, and any profit made should go into either improving or subsidising them.

Very true IMHO mate.
However ( whilst we both resent the fact) publicly owned institutions inevitably seem to stagnate, become self-serving & bloated with jobsworths.?


Just because it was like that doesn't mean it has to be like that.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 12 Sep 2018, 21:04

D41 wrote:
Monty wrote:I don't have a problem with authorities forcing efficiency far from it, but you can't run schools for profit.

The same is true for railways, gas, electricity, water etc etc. They are ours, they belong to us, and any profit made should go into either improving or subsidising them.


Well, plenty of schools are run for profit & they function just fine.

How do the railways, etc. "belong to us"??

You mean they belong to the govt.??


No they belong to us, paid for and built by us and our taxes.

At the moment there's an under investment in water and rail with the vast majority of profit going to Chinese, German, French and Dutch Governments and companies.

Our stupidly high rail farers are subsiding German commuters, and that's a fact. I can fly to Greece for much less than a train to London!
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby D41 » 12 Sep 2018, 22:21

.....And they'd both be full of foreigners.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby StMarks » 12 Sep 2018, 23:04

Monty wrote:.....Just because it was like that doesn't mean it has to be like that.

Doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be....
... -but ( if all previous examples are to be taken into account) inevitably would be..

(wait) And still are.:
Kwacky wrote:That sounds just like the Houses of Parliament.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 13 Sep 2018, 07:12

D41 wrote:.....And they'd both be full of foreigners.


And?
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby D41 » 13 Sep 2018, 07:21

You're comparing apples & oranges.

Greece vs. London....why would you compare the cost of traveling to two different places?.....it doesn't make sense. Different costs of going to the same place gives a better perspective.
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Re: The price of privatising education

Postby Monty » 13 Sep 2018, 08:47

D41 wrote:You're comparing apples & oranges.

Greece vs. London....why would you compare the cost of traveling to two different places?.....it doesn't make sense. Different costs of going to the same place gives a better perspective.


Maybe because one is 2000 miles away and the other is 180 miles.

Anyway what has that got to do with "both be full of foreigners"
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