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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 19 Jun 2018, 21:14

Oh pleeeeeease!!

Like the CID are going to descend on your house if you write anything even remotely self-incriminating.


Would be epic if they did, though.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby StMarks » 19 Jun 2018, 21:38

D41 wrote:......*Three years sobriety last week!!.

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Re: Cannabis

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Re: Cannabis

Postby StMarks » 20 Jun 2018, 08:07

C00kiemonster wrote:Timely news from Canada

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44543286


Is it just me, or does Paul Flynn look like he may have some working knowledge of the subject.?
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 20 Jun 2018, 08:38

StMarks wrote:
Is it just me, or does Paul Flynn look like he may have some working knowledge of the subject.?


:D

I reckon he's got a tinfoil lined greenhouse in his back garden
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Re: Cannabis

Postby duke63 » 21 Jun 2018, 10:29

Amazing how medicinal cannabis works on seizures.

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Re: Cannabis

Postby kiwikrasher » 21 Jun 2018, 11:03

Congrats on the 3 yrs D41, I grew up with an alcoholic so I applaud you (y)

But I totally disagree about cannabis being a gateway drug. Like Duke says addicts are addicts, it matters not the product.

People that have a problem with cannabis will have a problem with something else if it’s not available.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 21 Jun 2018, 11:43

Yeah...I'll go along with much of that...and even the scientific community is very split on the subject....hence the laws pertaining to it's use go from one end of the spectrum to the other..... while there's no grey area around harder drugs...coke, heroine, etc.
But like you say, you're a recreational user...you can walk away from it. Many people cannot.....whether they want to or not.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 21 Jun 2018, 11:47

Heroin and cocaine are very addictive, there should be no debate about that. But it's the lack of consistency with the amount of drug sold with each deal that causes the problems. Overdoses happen when a user has a hit with a higher amount of the drug than they're used to.

As Chris Morris said in Brass Eye:

Luckily, the amount of heroin I use is harmless. I inject about once a month on a purely recreational basis. Fine. But what about other people less stable, less educated, less middle-class than me? Builders or blacks for example. If you're one of those, my advice to you is leave well alone. Good luck.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 21 Jun 2018, 11:52

and while we're talking about other drugs, take a look at what happened in Portugal when they decriminalised all drugs

https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-po ... -to-heroin

http://uk.businessinsider.com/what-happ ... ?r=US&IR=T

Drug-related HIV infections have plummeted by over 90% since 2001, according to the drug policy think tank Transform.

Drug-related deaths in Portugal are the second-lowest in the European Union. Just 3 in a million people die of overdoses there, compared with the EU average of 17.3 per million.

The number of adults who have done drugs in the past year has decreased steadily since 2001.

Compared to rest of the EU, young people in Portugal now use the least amount of "legal high" drugs like synthetic marijuana, which are especially dangerous.

The percentage of drug-related offenders in Portuguese prisons fell from 44% in 1999 to 21% in 2012.

The number of people in drug treatment increased 60% from 1998 to 2011, from 23,600 to 38,000.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 21 Jun 2018, 11:56

Lolz!!

He did NOT really say that, did he??

That's funny.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 21 Jun 2018, 12:00

A quick check tells me that there's only 38,000 people that actually live in Portugal anyway, so it's not even a real country, it's more like a campground.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 21 Jun 2018, 12:01

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Brass Eye was fantastic. If you get bored, watch the one about paedos. Paedogeddon! it's called.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 21 Jun 2018, 12:03

D41 wrote:A quick check tells me that there's only 38,000 people that actually live in Portugal anyway, so it's not even a real country, it's more like a campground.



Huh? It's about 11 million. The last time I went to Porto the population was 1/4 million.
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Re: Cannabis

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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 21 Jun 2018, 21:04

Kwacky wrote:
D41 wrote:A quick check tells me that there's only 38,000 people that actually live in Portugal anyway, so it's not even a real country, it's more like a campground.



Huh? It's about 11 million. The last time I went to Porto the population was 1/4 million.


It's just a big Spanish allotment.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Rossgo » 28 Jun 2018, 02:16

Im spilt on it.

Cannabis can be great for some, crap for others

How much would it cost to legalise it?


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Re: Cannabis

Postby D41 » 28 Jun 2018, 07:51

Depends...how long is a piece of string??

It's a multi-layered issue in terms of "cost".
The actual cost of legalization would be negligible.
The side-effects (excuse the pun) would be very difficult, if not impossible to determine.
You'd have changes in medical costs & practices, loss of productivity in the workplace, etc....there'd be some fairly far-reaching consequences.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 28 Jun 2018, 08:32

How much to make it law? The same as any other bill we pass through parliament.

How much to implement? No idea. It depends. If its just for medical use then the pharmaceutical companies do the tests and submit the product for approval.
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Re: Cannabis

Postby Kwacky » 28 Jun 2018, 08:34

I forgot to mention, we already make cannabis based medical products so once it's legalised for that it won't cost anything.
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