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Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 12:11
by StMarks
Fwiw mate, I didn't see Kwacky's post as being particularly sarky.
Fireball wrote:..... I have no more to say to you either.
Perhaps mate, instead of your "cheap wit" reference, you could remember that "a bigot is one who slams his mind in your face" ?
Discussing, and keeping our minds open to different views to those we have adopted, is the only way we can develop & overcome. (nod)
.. also to be able to defeat your enemy, you should be sure to know him. ;)

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 12:35
by duke63
Jack wrote:
duke63 wrote:The simple answer is to ban physical borders between Nations. It’s proven time and again that it prevents war.
can you provide some evidence of this please .
Look back over Europebefore the likes of Italy and Germany became Nations.

Yugoslavia

Ireland.

I’m not saying don’t have Nations, I’m saying don’t have a physical border that requires permits to cross.

From April next year Scotland has its own income tax and Wales the year after. You can still have Nations and nationality but no physical border.

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 13:11
by D41
duke63 wrote:The simple answer is to ban physical borders between Nations. It’s proven time and again that it prevents war.
That all depends on where, and when....and certainly doesn't seem to work in Europe

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 13:21
by Monty
It will happen, just a matter of when. Can't see it happening in my lifetime though.

Anyway enough about that, what's everyones views on abortion and capital punishment?

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 13:46
by D41
(rolf)

I think abortion is capital punishment of the innocent unborn, how's that??

Judge (passing sentence)....."The good news is, your Mom's pregnant!! The bad news is, it's you!!" (insert clamps...)

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 13:47
by Kwacky
Killing in the womb = good
Killing outside the womb = not good.

HTH :)

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 13:50
by D41
Lolz....I dunno if 'good' is the best way to put it.....what's next?....it's AWESOME!!

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:00
by Kwacky
My clear lack of intelligence prohibits me from being able to fully articulate my argument beyond "good" and "not good".

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:14
by Jack
duke63 wrote:
Jack wrote:
duke63 wrote:The simple answer is to ban physical borders between Nations. It’s proven time and again that it prevents war.
can you provide some evidence of this please .
Look back over Europe before the likes of Italy and Germany became Nations.

Yugoslavia

Ireland.

I’m not saying don’t have Nations, I’m saying don’t have a physical border that requires permits to cross.

From April next year Scotland has its own income tax and Wales the year after. You can still have Nations and nationality but no physical border.
Europe pre Italy and Germany was a general melee of smaller states conflicts and wars were almost the normal state of affairs.
Europe post Italy and Germany has seen the Franco-Prussian war, WW1, WW2 and the cold war as well as the Spanish civil war and the conflict in Bosnia , I don't see what point you are making here .

I believe that Yugoslavia was formed in the 1920's , was split by the Nazi's during WW2 , reformed under Tito post WW2 and then dissolved into the Bosnian conflict in the 90's which caused genocide and the intervention of UN security forces . A nation was formed from a bunch of independent states dissolved their internal borders and eventually engaged in genocide before returning to a bunch of independent states . Again I fail to see the point you are making .

Ireland , I presume you are talking about the North South Border, it is still in existence , it's Eire on one side and the UK on the other , it may not be actively enforced but it still exists .

Scotland and Wales are not Nations , they were conquered by the English in the 17th and 11th centuries respectively and have not been granted sovereignty since .

I think it is very reductivist to say that the abolition of borders would be a simple answer to a very complex question .

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:24
by D41
Kwacky wrote:My clear lack of intelligence prohibits me from being able to fully articulate my argument beyond "good" and "not good".
You think you have it tough....my Dad was part-Jewish.
The shame...

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:27
by Kwacky
My paternal grandmother was Jewish. She had to leg it from France when the neighbours grassed her family up to the Germans. I don't think she saw her family again.

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:34
by D41
Is that why it's taken you so long to spend money on a house??

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:41
by Kwacky
I keep waiting for inheritance but it never arrives. ;)

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:42
by D41
Welcome to MY world!!

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 14:59
by Jack
Monty wrote:It will happen, just a matter of when. Can't see it happening in my lifetime though.

Anyway enough about that, what's everyones views on abortion and capital punishment?

I don't believe there is any excuse for abortion these days except in extreme medical cases , contraception is very reliable , I think that if we stopped promoting single motherhood through the use of welfare and social programs there would be far fewer unwanted pregnancies .

I can't see anything wrong with capital punishment , I think we have the capabilities with modern forensic science to make certain that mistakes are not made in regards to identifying the correct person(s) .

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 15:00
by Jack
Kwacky wrote:I keep waiting for inheritance but it never arrives. ;)

It's probably been claimed by a Swiss banker

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 15:01
by Monty
Oh look, a squirrel

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 15:05
by Kwacky
Monty wrote:Oh look, a squirrel

A BLOODY IMMIGRANT GREY ONE I bet, coming over here, forcing their ways on us stealing our nuts, killing our red ones.

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 15:10
by D41
Funny how Monty posts, and my views on abortion instantly take a 180.

Re: WTF?

Posted: 09 Apr 2018, 15:52
by duke63
If you dissolve physical borders and any man can travel to where he wants, any politician would have a **** hard job trying to persuade the ordinary citizen to fight over a piece of land he could visit and live in anyway.