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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby D41 » 09 Jul 2018, 22:46

I thought the voters put the Tories in power??
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 07:10

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Monty wrote:If the Libdems hadn’t put the Tories in power we wouldn’t be in this Shitstorm. BREXIT would never have happened


That's a bit of a reach.


Maybe, but true. They had the choice of a minority Tory Government which would probably have led to another election or a coalition with the Tories.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby D41 » 10 Jul 2018, 07:28

Probably?? Then it's not "true" really, is it??

More like a possibility, one would have thought.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 10 Jul 2018, 08:51

So was the plan to put Brexit to the public agreed by the LibDems or did the Tories put it in the following general election manifesto to gain the UKIP vote? My memory says the latter.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 09:32

No of course not, but what ever you say the Tories would not have been in power without Libdem support. They were the King makers.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 10 Jul 2018, 09:36

Or libdem didn't agree, the Tories called another election but this time the Tories promised a referendum on Europe and they get back in with a majority and Brexit happened sooner.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 09:58

Three things got the Tories in to power a world wide financial crash, Tory spin and the Libdems. Without them they wouldn't have been in a position to offer an EU referendum.

We could go around like this all day, but I'm not going to change my mind and I suspect neither will you.

I actually tactically voted Libdem in the coalition election on the basis that I lived in Surrey and better them than the Tories. I won't make that mistake again.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 10 Jul 2018, 10:10

The coalition killed the LibDem party. They were just starting to gain momentum and could have been a proper alternative. Getting into bed with the Tories set them back years. It's a shame as I actually liked Clegg, he could have gone far.

Which is why I think they need to reinvent themselves now as the centrist party. Get a decent leader in (Cable is not the answer) and chase votes by being Pro-Europe.

I don't know much about the LibDems but Layla Moran has always come across well when I've seen her on the telly. She might be a bit too young though. What we don't need is another old white bloke at the helm.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 10:30

........... and take votes from Labour keeping the Tories in power.

Believe it or not, I'm not a big fan of Party politics and would welcome a left wing coalition. But my first and foremost ambition is getting these B@stards out.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 10 Jul 2018, 10:46

Monty wrote:........... and take votes from Labour keeping the Tories in power.



A lot of Tory voters are pissed off with the conservative party. I think a decent LibDem team would take voters away from May and her mutiny.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 10:58

That's is possible, but it won't be May. She'll be long gone before the next election.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby D41 » 10 Jul 2018, 16:44

Monty wrote:
Believe it or not, I'm not a big fan of Party politics


Now I've heard it all. (rolf)
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 17:10

Needs must, necessity compels!
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 10 Jul 2018, 17:11

Anyway fcuk you!
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 16 Jul 2018, 14:42

To prove we don't need Europe we've unveiled our next generation of fighters for the RAF, due to come into service by 2035. It'll be built by Rolls Royce and BAE


and some Italian and other European companies

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk ... ocid=ientp
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby D41 » 16 Jul 2018, 14:57

Looks like a F-35 derivative.

Which I think the UK has already.....or they've ordered them.

Maybe.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 17 Jul 2018, 14:10

Japan and the EU have just signed a free trade agreement.

I guess that means any Japanese company currently operating in the UK needs to move to one of the EU member states. Likewise any company in the UK which supplies those Japanese companies.

COME ON PEOPLE, WAKE UP.

You can blame Europe as much as you like, but this deal and the other deals the EU are working on are going to kill this country. You can't feed your kids tax exile dollars.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Monty » 17 Jul 2018, 14:41

Yes but blue passports....

Honestly, the next person that says "taking back control" in my ear shot is getting punched in the throat.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby Kwacky » 17 Jul 2018, 14:46

We didn't have a plan before we called the referendum.
We approached no other countries to see what would be on the table if we left the EU
We didn't speak to Euro based and reliant companies before we went to the ballot

Even now we're delaying and it's costing us. The EU are stealing a march and you can't blame them.

It's a clusterf*ck of epic proportions.
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Re: Brexit Round 2

Postby D41 » 17 Jul 2018, 14:48

Monty wrote:Yes but blue passports....

Honestly, the next person that says "taking back control" in my ear shot is getting punched in the throat.


PM me your phone number??
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