Road Tax Rip Off

[Blade]

Just renewed the bike tax.

1000cc bike £82.50 for 12 months

I renewed the car tax last month

2000cc car £30 for 12 months

I don't know my bike emissions value but I would be very surprised if its nearly 3 times my car which has an engine twice the size which is pro rota what I'm paying.

[D6Nutz]

Yeah, but what was the cars year 1 road fund license?

Work the "showroom tax" over a few years and you can see how your current road fund license is low.

You don't get something for nothing in this country..

[duke63]

Bike emissions are usually very poor, Blade.

[Blade]

Yeah, but what was the cars year 1 road fund license?

Work the "showroom tax" over a few years and you can see how your current road fund license is low.

You don't get something for nothing in this country..

Car in year 1 was zero rate so free.

[beermonster]

It's still only £1.59 per week though isn't it? Not exactly a rip off I'd say - it's about half a pint of beer per week.

[C00kiemonster]

One advantage over here is no road tax, however I can see it coming back as I think the french gov have noticed how much it raised . The only got rid of it a few years ago I understand.

[Blade]

It's still only £1.59 per week though isn't it? Not exactly a rip off I'd say - it's about half a pint of beer per week.

Its not expensive your right and I'm not hung up about it or anything. I just thought it was unfair and not proportional with what car users pay that was all.

[Deegee]

I'm surprised our lot haven't tried that stunt, say they'll remove RFL and up the tax on pump fuels correspondingly in their Manifesto and get lots of votes from the 20 mile a weekers, then a year later say it hasn't worked and bring back RFL on top of the increased tax on the fuel. It's the sort of thing that would appeal to their PR driven minds and their grasping natures.

Cynical? Moi?

[Kwacky]

Deegee, don't tempt them.

[StMarks]

Apparently the VED road tax revenue is not the only one that they are reliant on.: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/dri ... b675&ei=10

"Roads across the UK are routinely bringing in £1million in motoring fines every year, with one street charging drivers £10,000 a day.

According to a Freedom of Information request, 18 local councils are earning more than £1million from individual streets charging drivers for traffic offences.

Busy streets in London and other major cities are catching drivers violating traffic rules and issuing hefty fines.

For Dulwich Village in Southwark, London, more than 43,000 penalty notices were issued to drivers breaking rules, resulting in £2.9million in fines being handed out.

While this was the street with the highest amount of revenue raised in London, one street in Birmingham raised more than £1million more.

Moor Street in Queensway, Birmingham surrounds the world-famous Bull Ring shopping centre and was found to have issued 65,755 fines."

This amounted to a total of £3,945,300 a year in driving fines, resulting in staggering daily fines of £10,809."

[duke63]

Apparently the VED road tax revenue is not the only one that they are reliant on.: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/dri ... b675&ei=10

"Roads across the UK are routinely bringing in £1million in motoring fines every year, with one street charging drivers £10,000 a day.

According to a Freedom of Information request, 18 local councils are earning more than £1million from individual streets charging drivers for traffic offences.

Busy streets in London and other major cities are catching drivers violating traffic rules and issuing hefty fines.

For Dulwich Village in Southwark, London, more than 43,000 penalty notices were issued to drivers breaking rules, resulting in £2.9million in fines being handed out.

While this was the street with the highest amount of revenue raised in London, one street in Birmingham raised more than £1million more.

Moor Street in Queensway, Birmingham surrounds the world-famous Bull Ring shopping centre and was found to have issued 65,755 fines."

This amounted to a total of £3,945,300 a year in driving fines, resulting in staggering daily fines of £10,809."

In all those cases though drivers appear to be breaking traffic rules.

After spending three weeks in France, its clear to me we have way to many vehicles on UK roads, the network is just not big enough to cope.

Government should be introducing and funding ways so that people don't have to ( and are actually financially dissuaded from) using cars in urban areas. There has to be a better way.

[D41]

Over what period??.... the reason I ask is in the Moor Street example, that would amount to over 175 fines per day if taken over a one year time-line, which seems a little extravagant, if not unlikely.

[Kwacky]

Moor Street will have thousands of vehicles go through it every day. It's incredibly busy around there.