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Re: The next prime minister

Postby Cav » 10 Sep 2019, 11:22

StMarks wrote:Every General Election is a referendum, to decide what government the people want to have controlling us. It is accepted that public opinions change, and therefore these are held regularly. That is accepted as the democratic way.
So why can't the same logic be applied to the Leave Referendum.?

Because time and again I, as a remain-voter, get told "you lost - deal with it"...

The leave-voters won and continue to shout loudest.
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby D41 » 10 Sep 2019, 14:29

StMarks wrote:Every General Election is a referendum, to decide what government the people want to have controlling us. It is accepted that public opinions change, and therefore these are held regularly. That is accepted as the democratic way.
So why can't the same logic be applied to the Leave Referendum.?
Just because a lot of people who wouldn't normally vote were coerced into voting, imo should not mean that a more informed & inspired public should not be consulted.
This is FAR more important to all of us than a temporary choice of governing party, and yet the Brexiteeers seem adamant that the decision is irrevocable.


That's not strictly true. A general election is a vote for one party over a limited anticipated period, a referendum is a vote on one issue----typically one which is exceptionally divisive, and which carries more long-term consequences.
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby Kwacky » 11 Sep 2019, 10:54

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

Boris Johnson’s suspension of the UK Parliament is unlawful, Scotland’s highest civil court has ruled.

A panel of three judges at the Court of Session found in favour of a cross-party group of politicians who were challenging the prime minister's move.

The decision overturns an earlier ruling from the court, which said last week Mr Johnson had not broken the law.

But it will not immediately affect the current suspension of Parliament, which started in the early hours of Tuesday.

This is because no order has been given by the court to cancel the suspension ahead of a full hearing at the Supreme Court in London which starts on Tuesday of next week.
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby duke63 » 11 Sep 2019, 11:47

(lol) Boris is being poorly advised by Cummings.
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby Kwacky » 11 Sep 2019, 12:12

That's because Cummings is a poor advisor. He's very blinkered from what I've read about him.
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby duke63 » 11 Sep 2019, 13:25

When are they arresting Johnson? (lol)
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby duke63 » 11 Sep 2019, 16:12

A government source has said Farage is not a fit and proper person to be allowed anywhere near government after he offered to make a pact with the Tories. :D
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby StMarks » 11 Sep 2019, 16:34

duke63 wrote:When are they arresting Johnson? (lol)

Let's hope things don't come to that.
This stupid situation is causing enough division, destruction & distraction as it is. If things start escalating, there is (literally) no telling where it will go.
I realise I've already bleated on with my paranoid concerns more than enough for you all, but just remember I want to be wrong.!
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Re: The next prime minister

Postby duke63 » 11 Sep 2019, 17:50

The damage and resentment it has caused is similar to the miners strike in my opinion. The division may well last a lifetime.
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