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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 20 May 2019, 20:35
by Blade
They sound a good tyre.

Are they billed as a sports tyre or sports tourer?

How do you rate them compared to the m7rr you've used a lot.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 20 May 2019, 21:22
by D6Nutz
Blade wrote:They sound a good tyre.

Are they billed as a sports tyre or sports tourer?

How do you rate them compared to the m7rr you've used a lot.
They're advertised as a high mileage touring tyre.

It's difficult to do a direct comparison as the bikes and riding styles are so different, and so are their demands on the tyres. I feel very confident with both tyres, and they both perform equally as well for day to day riding.

I personally reckon the m7 would have the edge when the weather gets hotter or when the pace really livens up. However in the wet the avons are immense.


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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 18:36
by D6Nutz
It's making a funny noise, tbh it's been doing it for a while it's just a lot louder now.

Vid attached hopefully, my gut says wheel bearing, I'm 90% sure it's but the chain. but would like opinions before giving to the stealer for diagnosis.

https://youtu.be/LS2id26aWxQ

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 18:39
by Kwacky
Unless you've got a lot of stiff links in the chain that does sound like the bearings.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 19:01
by Deegee
I know it’s grasping at straws but it’s worth checking sprocket to sprocket alignment and the cush drive before you condemn the wheel bearings.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 19:46
by Frankie
Bloody hell that sounds bad..... Take the wheel off and see if you can spin on a spindle of some sort, so you have it away from all the other stuff, chain sprocket etc.... at least that will determine if its the wheel bearings or not, i would say not, the wheel bearing tend to be a dry droning kind of sound as to a knocking like that. Check the brake pads, make sure all is seated right.... Just my thoughts.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 20:32
by duke63
Sounds like the hub bearing has collapsed to me. I wouldn't use it if it is, it could cause the whole wheel hub to wear.

https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/vfr_ ... dust_seals

This is a Triumph but they are all very similar. As well as the traditional type of bearing, there is a needle roller bearing in the hub as well. There are no bearings fitted to the rear wheel, they are all in the hub.

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 20:59
by duke63
This is porbably a better video to give you an idea of how the bearings are fitted and work. Look around the 15 minutes point.

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 21:09
by D6Nutz
Cock and ouch...

Cheers Duke, looks like I'm on the ktm for a few days and my wallet is going to suffer a bit of pain.

I probably could sort it myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 21:35
by Frankie
Ah yes forgot it was single sided lol... hope its a quick fix especially as its selling time

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 22:50
by Rossgo
Not good Nutz. Hand it over to a tech and let them take a look fingers crossed it won't be a big spend

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 22:58
by Stonesie
It sounds like the wheel bearing to me, I can hear the chain separately.

Can you wiggle the wheel? grab the tyre from the face side and wobble it up/down, Left/Right? That's how I would check a wheel bearing on a car.

If you decide to have a look yourself then the next step is wheel off and brake pads out, it doesn't sound like it will be those but it's easy to eliminate at that point.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 08:26
by Cav
I've changed the wheel bearings on my ZX6R and it's quite easy - just stick the bearing in the fridge for 24hours before trying to fit it and wipe off condensation prior to installation. Make sure you have something the right size and shape to tap it into place (y) block of wood or something

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 19:15
by D6Nutz
Deegee wrote:I know it’s grasping at straws but it’s worth checking sprocket to sprocket alignment and the cush drive before you condemn the wheel bearings.
Good shout.

I had half an hour or so after getting home from work so had a fiddle.

There is no lateral movement on the wheel at all and with the chain slackened right off the noise disappears. What happened next was a series of fiddlings based on various internet posts using all the wrong tools (and a very big hammer).

Anyway, it's all back together and sounds ok. I'm going to use it tomorrow and see how it goes.

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 19:54
by Deegee
So what was the verdict, what was causing noise?

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 20:06
by D6Nutz
Deegee wrote:So what was the verdict, what was causing noise?


Honestly, I wish I knew. The only edumacted guesses I can make are down to alignment of something and chain tension. Both of which the Honda tech suggested.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 20:36
by Deegee
Any chance of a few links in the chain seized up?

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 20:51
by D6Nutz
Deegee wrote:Any chance of a few links in the chain seized up?
Don't think so, as the clicking noise was so regular it would have ment most the the chain was stiff links. I'll have a real good look when I have a bit more time.

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Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 21:49
by Deegee
If a chain is tight due seized links, it can make a sound like you had due to each roller catching on and falling noisily into place on individual sprocket teeth, the same sound can also be made when a chain or sprocket is so worn that the same thing happens.

Re: Nutz's VFR 800

PostPosted: 27 Jun 2019, 07:06
by Cav
I don't know if it's the same with single-sided swingarms but a double-sided bike has 3 rear wheel bearings - 2 in the wheel and 1 in the carrier.

Is it possible relieving chain tension has meant the carrier (if there even is one) is able to spin freely hence no noise?