Switching from Road to Track

[Kwacky]

Anyone got any tips how to get my head to flick between the two?

I noticed when I did the Chris Walker race school I had decent body position, was hanging off and seemed a lot more relaxed. I'm not sure if that was due to the long lay off from riding or because it was another bike.

Is it a case of finding a quiet bit of road and learning how to hang off and get my knee down or do you reckon it would be doing a course? I remember Duke doing a knee down course, was it worth it?

[Perkles]

More track days IMHO
I was knee down in the afternoon yesterday as I got more comfortable and my speed increased, I wasnt hanging off any further
Your tall enough and fast enough for knee down on track for sure
Let's do Malory again , Gerard's is perfect for it

[Kwacky]

I might do Mallory in novices and take it easy, spending the day trying to sort out my body position.

But I say that every time, forget it and start chasing other bikes.

[Jimmy Mc]

I think knee down just sort of happened for me, but generally only on one side? My left knee slider is almost unused even though it was the only side that I'd decked the pegs out on my gsxr (obviously not trying hard enough!). It feels more comfortable for me to lean off right than left so maybe it's just a flexibility / confidence thing that can be built on.

When is the Mallory day?

[Kwacky]

Nothing planned yet for Mallory. I'll post something up in the events section when I've had a look at dates.

[Blade]

I agree with Perkles in more track days is the best method. I can knee down on track but not on road and I'm OK with that.

[kiwikrasher]

I agree with Perkles in more track days is the best method. I can knee down on track but not on road and I'm OK with that.

I'm the same, well I was last track day but that was three years ago. I found that once I had the body position sorted it was just getting my head around corner speed. The difference for me going from a little touch on apex and a good drag thru' the corner was getting on the power sooner and harder, once I had that confidence it seemed easy.

[Blade]

Yeah I know what you mean. There is two types of knee down in my personal experience.

Type 1 your hanging off like an ape.

Type 2 your going bloody fast through a corner and the knee touches down and arcs all the way through it naturally without trying or even thinking about it

[Kwacky]

I know I've got the lean angles as the tyres are bobbled on the edge and I got one of the pegs down.

[Blade]

Think is when you hang off more you actually lean the bike less or go faster for the same lean angle if your dangly bits are big enough

I need to get back on track myself to improve confidence and work on body position. If you have plans for another day I might be interested depending on where and when.

[rocket]

Get your body position right forget about getting your knee down as If you sort your body position out add speed knee down will follow easily. I would not practice this on the road this is one reason I booked the track da y so I can sort my head and body positioning out. Next track day ask an instructor to take you out. Or book a race school day I'm tempted to book one depending how next week goes as I know I can ride better than I am at the moment.

[D6]

Too much commuting has all but ruined any chance of me being able to hang off a bike. Even on track. It feels so alien, and I end up slower and not as smooth or controlled.

Only bad thing about how I ride is that I am right up to the edge of the tyre with wear, which makes you wonder how much room there is for error (ie. going into a corner too hot). I know hanging off would solve this a little, but I wont practise on road. And don't do trackdays anymore (costs) to do it on track.

[Monty]

Think I might have solved my body position woes. I started running a few months ago to try and get fitter, as I was doing a 20 minute session on the track and literally couldn't stand up after. (or get off the bike unaided for that matter)

After doing a few weeks of running 3 times a week, about 3 miles each time my knees were killing me. Really struggled walking up and down stairs, but found the running fairly easy for someone that doesn't do much exercise.

Even now after a month of not running my knees feel like they are about to give way walking down stairs. Legs physically shake when they get to about 30 degrees.

So it's not fitness I've been struggling with, it's week knees. Off to see the doc next Monday.

[Kwacky]

Too much commuting has all but ruined any chance of me being able to hang off a bike. Even on track. It feels so alien, and I end up slower and not as smooth or controlled.

Only bad thing about how I ride is that I am right up to the edge of the tyre with wear, which makes you wonder how much room there is for error (ie. going into a corner too hot). I know hanging off would solve this a little, but I wont practise on road. .

This is me.

I use the bike most days to and from work. I don't want to try hanging off down the M6 or coming into the works car park

Although getting my knee down as I turn into work would look good.

[Perkles]

im up for a bit of island surfing round redditch one weekend ,its quiet there and wont hurt for you to practice a bit,
You are fast enough and carry more than enough lean angle ,I bet you are very very close to knee down without knowing it
Jack any pictures going round redgate

[D6]

I've took my sliders off my leathers. For two reasons. Unmarked knee sliders look crap. It means I am less tempted to even bother attempting it on the road.

It would look good though, if you had sparky sliders too.

[duke63]

Anyone got any tips how to get my head to flick between the two?

I noticed when I did the Chris Walker race school I had decent body position, was hanging off and seemed a lot more relaxed. I'm not sure if that was due to the long lay off from riding or because it was another bike.

Is it a case of finding a quiet bit of road and learning how to hang off and get my knee down or do you reckon it would be doing a course? I remember Duke doing a knee down course, was it worth it?

Yes it was worth doing the course. Once i had done it once that day, it was a piece of piss to keep doing it. Felt very alien initially and very easy afterwards.

That said i have now forgotten all the technique i learned that day as i just have not done many trackdays since.

There is one scheduled for September.

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[Kwacky]

Cheers Duke. I'll bear that in mind if it's still an issue by then

Perkles, I think some Redditch roundabout time might be worth it.

[C00kiemonster]

Cheers Duke. I'll bear that in mind if it's still an issue by then

Perkles, I think some Redditch roundabout time might be worth it.

You can then scrub the other knee on roundabouts in France

[Kwacky]

You've got the Clover Leaf in Redditch for the left side.